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2013 final drive vs. 2010 final drive?? (DSG)

ROOSTER1050

Go Kart Champion
ok, odd question ....

As some of you saw, I recently had my 2010 DSG replaced, along with new mechatronics (warrantied!!! WOOT!!! :thumbsup:)

I've been driving VERY LITTLE the week I've had it back, but took my first "big" highway drive last night, and noticed something odd.

previously, while highway cruising, I'd be at 3200rpm at 75mph -- 6th gear/D etc.

Now I've noticed I'm pretty much right at 3000rpm at 75mph. The reason I noticed??? DRONE.... like LOTS OF DRONE.

I have a turbo-back exhause with no cat (SPM DP to EuroJet CBE) , and I cant believe how much more drone I suddenly have at 3000rpm/75mph.


anyone know if the final drive ratio, or 6th gear, has been slightly changed from 2010 DSG models to 2013??? (or know where I could look)??

I may have to change up my exhaust set up at this point, cuz it's LOOOOUUUDDD..... like ear-drum buzzing LOUD:eek: (and I'd rather not cruise at 80mph to sit at what now would be 3200rpm)....
 

grambles423

Automotive Engineer
Your mechatronic replacement did not replace any gears. Your final drive is the same.

You have more load actually being transmitted now, hence the drone.

EDIT: So they replaced the ENTIRE DSG? If so, same thing applies. Shouldn't be any different as long as it was a GTI dsg.
 

maxtdi

Go Kart Champion
The passat/jetta dsg would be at around 2500
 

ROOSTER1050

Go Kart Champion
Your mechatronic replacement did not replace any gears. Your final drive is the same.

You have more load actually being transmitted now, hence the drone.

EDIT: So they replaced the ENTIRE DSG? If so, same thing applies. Shouldn't be any different as long as it was a GTI dsg.

yeah, full DSG replacement along with new mechatronics.... just odd that my highway RPM's are lower now :iono: I thought maybe VW might have tweaked final or 6th for better highway mpg or something....

ees weird.
 

TheCastle

Ready to race!
GTI DSG Gear Ratios, dunno what accounts for only a 2000rpm drop. The taller geared DSG's should be around 2600rpms at 75mph. There seems to be only 2 sets of gear rations VW uses for their DSG's. The lower gear ratios for the GTI/GLI, and the same taller set for the GSR/CC/EOS. The TDI's are even taller geared.

2010/11 2014GTI 2014 Beetle 2014 GLI
1st 3.46 / 3.46 / 3.46 / 3.46
2nd 2.15 / 2.15 / 2.05 / 2.15
3rd 1.46 / 1.46 / 1.30 / 1.46
4th 1.08 / 1.08 / .90 / .90
5th 1.09 / 1.09 / .91 /1.08
6th .92 / .92 /.76 / 1.09

2011 GTI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GTI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GSR Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GLI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 from VW's site http://www.vw.com/en/models/gti/tri...10|trimlevel=d3b4f4a65a037c33bac0341dbab1bbd7
 
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ROOSTER1050

Go Kart Champion
GTI DSG Gear Ratios, dunno what accounts for only a 2000rpm drop. The taller geared DSG's should be around 2600rpms at 75mph. There seems to be only 2 sets of gear rations VW uses for their DSG's. The lower gear ratios for the GTI/GLI, and the same taller set for the GSR/CC/EOS. The TDI's are even taller geared.

2010/11 2014GTI 2014 Beetle 2014 GLI
1st 3.46 / 3.46 / 3.46 / 3.46
2nd 2.15 / 2.15 / 2.05 / 2.15
3rd 1.46 / 1.46 / 1.30 / 1.46
4th 1.08 / 1.08 / .90 / .90
5th 1.09 / 1.09 / .91 /1.08
6th .92 / .92 /.76 / 1.09

2011 GTI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GTI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GSR Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 GLI Final Drive 4.06 gears 1-4 and 3.14 gears 5-6
2014 from VW's site http://www.vw.com/en/models/gti/tri...10|trimlevel=d3b4f4a65a037c33bac0341dbab1bbd7

cool details, thank you Castle :thumbsup:

so, all in my head i suppose LOL :bonk:
 
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