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Old 04-26-2012, 08:12 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by VINNY View Post
Don't hate on the noobs, and the "lurkers". Almost every one on here when they got their cars was a lurker. Just hanging out, and reading posts for awhile is a good start, and gives you a lot of opinions about products. Otherwise, this is a really good post, and a must read for noobies.

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wtf? There is not one ounce of hate in the OP. Its a resource, not a bashing.

Originally Posted by NoRegrets78 View Post
APR does classify the K04 as a Stage 3 product as seen here
Yes, their website says so, but this topic has been covered many many many times. Arin has clarified it as "Stage K04" to eliminate confusion from their actual Stage 3 kit. They just lump it in the Stage 3 category because it is a bigger turbo.

Stage 3 was actually formed by APR in a way to denote their Big Turbo setup (GT28) but normally Stage 3 denotes just any BT. Most will argue across the board that K04 is TECHNICALLY not a BT because it is just an OEM swap, but who decides that?

I've always felt K04 to be Stage 3/BT because it is in fact a bigger turbo. Unitronic denotes it as a Stage 2+ upgrade, Revo Denotes it as K04 Tune, APR Denotes it as a K04 tune, etc. etc.
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