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Old 01-16-2010, 06:50 PM   #15
WhiteJames
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New Zealand Volkswagen are already selling the Golf 'R', even though it will not arrive in Australia until mid 2010.

This is the NZ brochure:

http://www.volkswagen.co.nz/publish/...Y10_1Jan10.pdf

NZ brochure states difference in DSG (Manual gearbox for GTI/'R' not available in NZ) weight is 127 kg - unladen weight.

Not sure what 'unladen weight means' ... is this abscene of fluids/oils?

Reason being is that those weights stated in NZ brochure are too light.
GTI is stated to weigh in at 1360/1380 kg for Man/DSG.
Could be different specs in different countries. For example, GTI is cheaper in North America, but you guys have to pay for options like Climate Control, whereas in AUS/NZ, some of these options are standard. Some standard options may add greater weight.
Maybe oil in the Haldex diffs?

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Old 01-16-2010, 09:58 PM   #16
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Okay ... to be fair to the Golf 'R' clan ... maybe some pros of the Golf 'R'.

IN addition, may be an issue with my stated weights based on the NZ Golf 'R' brochure. Difference in weight maybe a little as 130kg between the two at the very least ... stated weigh varies from countury to country. Standard options vary from country to country. In short:

Pros of Golf 'R':

Cheaper than Audi S3 (but not in the U.K. where they are similarily priced).
Faster than GTI.
Bragging rights & street cred.
Better grand tourer based on added weight & torque - makes long distance commuting more comfortable (GTI can be bouncy at times).
Extensive options list (recaro seats, 19" wheels, etc).
Not a great deal of fuel usage over the GTI, esp on highway.
Smoked tail lights.
Better looking rear end.
Nicer body kit.
Build quality of motor should be spot on given Audi S3 EA113 motor being build for while.
Not likely to be upgraded any time soon ... even direct rival Audi S3 would not be due to hit market until 2013. Maybe 2014 for replacement.
AWD grip levels - esp with new Gen Haldex apportioning more power to the rear wheels more readily.
Better balanced with additional weight of the Haldex/Diff in the rear.
Better ride due to increased weight esp as a grand tourer (GT).
Bigger & stonger brakes.
Voluminous intercooler.
Peakier power delivery give a exciting rush.

Anything else I've missed?

Cheers.
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