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Old 06-05-2014, 10:40 PM   #323
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All four Mk7's the local dealer had in stock have Pirelli's. It's one of the first things I noticed since the same tires came on my 2010. Those tires suck.
What is it specifically that's bad about the Pirellis? Bought my '14 GTI in April and so far I think they're great in dry and wet weather. Haven't had a chance to test them through winter though.

For the past few years I've been using the Continental DWS on my '08 Rabbit and I loved them. If the Pirellis end up sucking during the winter I'll probably switch back to the Contis. But so far I have zero issues with them.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:50 PM   #324
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I sat in a Mk7 GTI last night at the dealer, didn't have time for a test drive. It does feel amazing inside but as I was looking around there are a few things that just "feel" cheap. Maybe it's that faux CF or whatever it is trim or the super light clutch pedal. I also didn't like how far the door opened and it seemed to swing wide open rather than having the standard "steps" to keep the door at certain increments if you don't want to open it all the way in a tight parking spot. I'm excited to drive one but there's just something I don't love and I can't quite put my finger on it. It is also quite a bit bigger than the Mk6 and possibly on the verge of being too big. I do like the lower roof line though. I'm sure that clutch will take a dump quickly with the proposed stage 1 tune from APR, it is feather-light.

I still can't wait to test drive one with the PP models get here though.
I tested an Autobahn, and I felt the same about the trim. It's still a great car though, and the PP will be great. I didn't like it at first, but I'm liking it a lot more now.
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Old 06-05-2014, 10:54 PM   #325
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What is it specifically that's bad about the Pirellis? Bought my '14 GTI in April and so far I think they're great in dry and wet weather. Haven't had a chance to test them through winter though.



For the past few years I've been using the Continental DWS on my '08 Rabbit and I loved them. If the Pirellis end up sucking during the winter I'll probably switch back to the Contis. But so far I have zero issues with them.

The stock Pirellis end up hardening pretty quickly. They also end being pretty noisy. I have 7600 miles and 7 months on mine and they're already horrible for acceleration in both wet and dry weather. They're also pretty bad at lateral grip.
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Old 06-05-2014, 11:43 PM   #326
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What is it specifically that's bad about the Pirellis? Bought my '14 GTI in April and so far I think they're great in dry and wet weather. Haven't had a chance to test them through winter though.

For the past few years I've been using the Continental DWS on my '08 Rabbit and I loved them. If the Pirellis end up sucking during the winter I'll probably switch back to the Contis. But so far I have zero issues with them.
They'll start howling like it has 4 bad wheel bearings around the 20-25k miles. I replaced them at least 10k early because they were so damn loud.
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:08 AM   #327
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Thanks Dave1078 and formul8. Well that's disappointing to hear. I guess I'll keep an eye out on mine as they age. What's funny is I originally tried to get my dealership to swap the stock tires to a set of Continental DWS. Unfortunately I couldn't get 'em to budge on that deal, so I guess either way I didn't have much of a choice.
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Old 06-06-2014, 12:44 PM   #328
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What is it specifically that's bad about the Pirellis? Bought my '14 GTI in April and so far I think they're great in dry and wet weather. Haven't had a chance to test them through winter though.

For the past few years I've been using the Continental DWS on my '08 Rabbit and I loved them. If the Pirellis end up sucking during the winter I'll probably switch back to the Contis. But so far I have zero issues with them.
I had the stock Pirellis with about 29k on them at the beginning of last winter. They were the worst tire I have ever driven in the snow. They were absolutely devoid of traction as soon as there was *any* snow on the road. I replaced them with Conti DWS- soooooo much better.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:04 PM   #329
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I test drove a MK7 GTI with a 6 speed today.

My impressions:

I like the improved steering. It seems that it is more eager to turn when I want it to turn. Not that the MK6 is bad, because the steering was an improvement over my 2012 WRX. I just find the MK7 steering to be an improvement over the MK6.

It feels more nimble for some strange reason. I guess because it is lighter, but I don't know. It just doesn't seem like as much of a burden to toss around as my MK6 is. It also seemed to ride a tad bit better than mine, but that could be my tires versus the P Zero Neros.

I like the new transmission shifter and clutch. It reminds me of the 6MT Accord I had back in 2007 with smooth and precise shifts and a short throw super light clutch. Please don't take this as an insult because of all the cars I have owned or driven, the 6MT Accord and 6MT Acuras had some of the best clutches and shifting feels stock compared to most Murikan cars.

My main gripe about the MK7 is those all season P Zero Nero tires that come with it stock. Really? This is a hot hatch, it should come with some extreme performance tires stock, especially in South Louisiana! Then again, I'm used to changing out tires on new cars anyway!

My next gripe is that I hope the new radio is a major milestone improvement over the RNS-315 and RNS-510 because it looks like it will be EXPENSIVE to replace, if it can be replaced at all. While I am starting to chill on the super elaborate aftermarket sound systems, the fact that I don't know all the features of the new stock HU could lead to a letdown. If it plays WAV or FLAC off the SD card or through the MDI, then maybe it could work with a processor. If all the SD card or MDI allows is compressed music through USB media, that is a huge complaint of mine.

While the MK7 is an improvement over the MK6, I still stand by my original statement that my next car will NOT be a MK7 GTI.
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Old 06-08-2014, 12:25 PM   #330
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the moment of truth is upon us, end of May and early June cars will start showing up!?!.. I cant wait to get inside that car and take it for a spin.. Will see the long lasting dilemma if the GTI will hold to its standards.. Puebla Plant aside I am optimistic about the German Engineering there.
Isn't VW saying September now?
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:03 AM   #331
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Isn't VW saying September now?
The GTI 4 doors are out and available to buy, however from what i gather certain models/trims will be out later on, like the 2 door GTI, the TDI probably around when the R comes out.. who knows, its vw weird market strategy..
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:55 AM   #332
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I test drove the MK7 MT last night while I was getting my 2012 MK6 MT serviced.

Pros for the MK7:
-Clutch was much more aggressive and the engagement points was more precise.
-Shifter was shorter and more precise.
-Fender sounds system has a nice sound with the built in subwoofer.
-Added torque is noticeable especially at higher speeds.
-Increased turbo noise

With that being said, that was about the only things I liked more about the car. I thought that the car actually felt heavier and wasn't as nimble as the MK6. It felt like it was a longer car.

Based on what I felt during the test drive, there is no way I would trade in my MK6. I would rather spend the extra cash and get a stage 1 tune.
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