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Old 11-05-2015, 10:30 PM   #57
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I think it will introduce additional wear over the OEM design, but I don't think it's an "incorrect" setup. If I were to go back to a DMF setup, I would use the rigid disc as well. I believe that the South Bend Drop-In Disc people have been using is also a rigid disc. Obviously, it's a costly part/install though, so I don't think I'm the one to make that call for you. If you trust your mechanic, it may be good to take his real world advice and go with a setup/brand he recommends. But the theory is: SMF + sprung hub; DMF + rigid disc.

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Since you had a similar setup prior (OEM DMFW + Sachs Rigid Clutch), can you say what the problem was that caused the switch?
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:54 PM   #58
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I had major slipping problems with the Sachs disk and the PP I had. ~10-12psi and it would just let go. I gave it ~1100miles and it was a no go. Same type of PP with the feramic setup is golden and the pedal is nice and light for DD.

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Old 11-06-2015, 03:46 PM   #59
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So Matt...
You did the same exact setup I'm trying currently?
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:49 PM   #60
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Nope. My tuning shop sourced the disc from Sachs Racing and paired it with their preferred PP. It wasn't from that site and I don't know what the part number (if there even was one) was. Neither that setup, nor my current one, are available off the shelf at the moment. The current disc is custom and didn't come from Sachs. I wanted a lighter pedal and DMF since my car is a daily driver, so I wasn't really finding what I wanted off the shelf.

Plenty of other folks have had good luck with the SRE disc when paired with the SRE PP. Others haven't had such good luck. It seems like the most common cause of issues with their setup is improper installation though. If the disc is installed backwards you'll definitely have issues. The other point I found again and again in reviews from the 8P crowd is that it needs a solid 1000miles of break in.

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Old 11-09-2015, 11:38 PM   #61
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Single mass fly wheel back to a dual mass?

Did anyone in this thread order a new release bearing from Sachs, versus buying OEM one, and can tell me which part you got and if it fit and performed without issue?

2.5 years ago when I bought the SMF kit (883089.000034) their release bearing was part 613182.600197 and looked identical to the VW OEM parts, except with Sachs/INA part numbers on it. It worked fine as long as I had it in the car.

Now I bought their kit for the DMF (001394.999502) and their site now lists release bearing 613182.600206 which looks very different from other VW bearings I've seen, and even has a smaller depth from housing to the face of the bearing (by 1.6mm). Has Sachs/FTE/FAG part numbers on it.

I have an email out to support, but seeing if anyone else has gotten this new funky bearing that seems the wrong depth, and had it work out fine.

EDIT: Took a picture. Left to right: original bearing that came in car, then Sachs 600197, then the weirdo Sachs 600206:


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Old 11-10-2015, 10:09 AM   #62
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I don't see a problem, the overall dimensions look the same to me. Looks like a revised/stronger part.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:57 AM   #63
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I don't see a problem, the overall dimensions look the same to me. Looks like a revised/stronger part.

The cup in which the slave cylinder lives is definitely much stronger, but the bearing itself feels a little flimsier when wiggling and rotating it.

And there's the fact that at full slave cylinder extension (as pictured), the new one is 1.6mm shorter as far as how much it's going to move the pressure plate springs. I'm concerned that when this goes in it might not release the pressure plate far enough, and the clutch will drag. Then again, that last 1.6mm might never come into play.

Also weird is that I haven't yet found any VW part that looks like the OEM labeled version of this. Looks like Sachs just decided to switch it up.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:22 AM   #64
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Dopaz I ordered the throw out bearing through Sachs and I got the same one as you. It's currently installed now. No problems thus far.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:24 PM   #65
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Well, I guess the cat is out of the bag in what I'm running now: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?t=7383793
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