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Old 11-25-2017, 12:25 AM   #1
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Tips for adjusting the front subframe to correct camber?

I recently got an alignment and my car is pulling noticeably to the right. The alignment tech mentioned its due to my front camber being off (-0.5 left and -1.7 right). I've done some research and tried to shift my front subframe today but it wouldn't budge. I loosened 11 bolts on the subframe, surprisingly the passenger side did not have the second steering rack bolt which seems to be normal?

Anyone have any advice on how I can shift my subframe a little to even out the camber? I was only able to move the subframe vertically but couldn't budget it in any other direction. Or should I suck it up and just get Tyrol bolts/bushings? I'm afraid that my camber might still not be even with the bolts then I'm totally out of luck. Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:45 AM   #2
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You're just trying to eyeball it? (not the right way of doing it anyways)
Take it to a shop and have them shift it while it's on the alignment rack

I'd grab the subframe collar kit too though. I added it on my Tiguan (same suspension/subframe) and with both ST and HPA SHS coils....the camber was perfect/equal. It's a nice/solid upgrade anyways

The "missing bolt" is normal too, for the rack...there are only 3 (total)...2 on one side & 1 on the other
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Old 11-25-2017, 07:52 PM   #3
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You're just trying to eyeball it? (not the right way of doing it anyways)
Take it to a shop and have them shift it while it's on the alignment rack

I'd grab the subframe collar kit too though. I added it on my Tiguan (same suspension/subframe) and with both ST and HPA SHS coils....the camber was perfect/equal. It's a nice/solid upgrade anyways

The "missing bolt" is normal too, for the rack...there are only 3 (total)...2 on one side & 1 on the other
Thanks for the help, appreciate it! I have a relatively cheap camber tool I bought on eBay that I used. I also checked to make sure my car was jacked up evenly. Are the 11 bolts on the subframe the only ones that need to be loosened? I loosened them up quite a bit and I was only able to move the subframe around by maybe a hair. I tapped it with a rubber mallet also and nothing. I've never messed with the subframe on any car before so I might be doing something wrong.

I'll probably still get the deadset collars and new bolts since I'm not feeling super comfortable about re-tightening the stretch bolts. Hopefully the camber is closer to being even after the subframe is set as straight/even as possible.
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:25 AM   #4
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I've taken the subframe off and what not, but haven't ever tried shifting it while it's on the car.
I saw a video (but couldn't find it) where they used a pry tool of some sort to try and shift it. Granted....it's not going to move that much though, since there's only just a little bit of play in the bolt holes.

Either way...try the collar kit and definitely replace all those bolts. It should straighten everything out and it'll clean up the slop & lock down the front end
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:18 PM   #5
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I've taken the subframe off and what not, but haven't ever tried shifting it while it's on the car.
I saw a video (but couldn't find it) where they used a pry tool of some sort to try and shift it. Granted....it's not going to move that much though, since there's only just a little bit of play in the bolt holes.

Either way...try the collar kit and definitely replace all those bolts. It should straighten everything out and it'll clean up the slop & lock down the front end
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I'd go to an alignment specialist to adjust the subframe and there are even some gains to be had in the front struts themselves.

Be warned, the collar kits aren't a guarantee to perfectly align your subframe to yield even camber. It depends on how your subframe was machined. For example, mine wasn't perfectly even and when I added the subframe collars it resulted in a front camber of ~ -0.7/-1.3. I added superpro ball joints to fix the camber, but that was an added cost at the time I really didn't want to spend. Something to consider.
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I don't understand why you car would be pulling at all even with slight uneven camber.
This an old sheet of mine. That front camber just a stuck value. Especially once you get the collar kit. Maybe I got lucky.


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Old 12-26-2017, 01:28 AM   #8
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Got my Tyrolsport kit installed and now my camber is close to even in the front (1.2 vs 1.0 left and right). It might be off a little due to my coilover height not being quite even.

I got an alignment and all the numbers look good but car is still pulling noticeably to the right. My front tires are pretty old and I only had an alignment when I put them on brand new. Could uneven tire wear cause my car to be pulling? My rear tires are brand new.


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That's pretty damn close on the front...I wouldn't sweat that.

As for the tires/wear....yes, that can cause pulling.
If your rear tires are truly "brand new", put them on the front & then see if it still pulls

Or, ideally, maybe buy new tires to match the new rears....so you have a matching set?
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