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Old 03-21-2012, 04:53 PM   #43
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CA roads are the worst, at least, so cal anyway unless you are lucky enough to live in parts of orange county. l.a. though, its 3rd world. makes the GTI a less than comfortable DD sometimes.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #44
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TL, DR

Points involved? Lawyer up. The $40-250 will pay for itself within months after insurance gets wind of it.

The only place where letters help are in camera tickets (I got out of one a year ago by annotating the picture, and writing a brief note explaining the level of uncertainty. The note to the appeals process was shorter than this post I'm writing here.)

First rule of the written word: know your audience. All your Faulkneresque prose will do, is piss off the audience. In this case (as in most) you want the audience to be your friend.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:15 PM   #45
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Bottom line, your letter is meaningless, unless you mean to piss off the judge. Your letter has an air of smart ass, and loaded with BS.

Speed limit 70, your speed 80, guilty, in some states 80 and above is reckless, yours is only written for a speed violation.

Now, if you have a good driving record, then plead guilty but request Driving School, it will cost you about 50 dollars, you can do it on line and your violation will voided, no record, no insurance implications.

You stated you were polite, cooperative etc., that is meaningful and with a good record will help you get driving school.

If you don't have a good record, well then Bend over.

Good luck and slow down.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:13 PM   #46
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Bottom line, your letter is meaningless, unless you mean to piss off the judge. Your letter has an air of smart ass, and loaded with BS.

Speed limit 70, your speed 80, guilty, in some states 80 and above is reckless, yours is only written for a speed violation.

Now, if you have a good driving record, then plead guilty but request Driving School, it will cost you about 50 dollars, you can do it on line and your violation will voided, no record, no insurance implications.

You stated you were polite, cooperative etc., that is meaningful and with a good record will help you get driving school.

If you don't have a good record, well then Bend over.

Good luck and slow down.
I'm going to have to agree with this. If you want to contest, do it in person and hope the officer doesn't show. This letter is shooting yourself in the foot. I'm going to translate your letter to what the judge is going to see. You could probably just print this out and mail it in for the same effect.


Don't mean to be harsh, but you're better off either with real legal representation, or basically anything else other than this letter.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:17 PM   #47
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you pleaded not guilty, but still did it? yeah this isn't going to work. Well written though.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:27 AM   #48
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My brother tried to fight the same ticket with "I'm going with the flow of traffic". The judge asked him, were you going speed limit? No. Were you going over the speed limit? Yes. Guilty as charged.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:06 AM   #49
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I did 37 at 25 limit school zone. I ended up paying about $80 but no point. It would been like $160 +/-. So yes it is worth showing up if you have time.
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