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Old 04-30-2012, 05:19 PM   #337
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Anyone watched this review that MotorTrend put up recently? It's a very positive review, perhaps too positive.



Really want one now after watching this
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:42 PM   #338
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Because nobody makes a lightweight, high-powered car stock right now unless you spend at least twice the cost of the BRZ/Miata/whatever. I'm really not sure why it's like that to be honest. If someone were to make a car that was ~2500 lbs, ~300 hp, RWD for say $35k I would expect it to sell very well.
Um.... how about a 370z?! 3000lbs 330hp and can be had under 30k.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:47 PM   #339
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According to car and driver online, they said Scion will only be NA and as of now, Subaru will stick with NA, but MIGHT release a turbo version later.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #340
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Um.... how about a 370z?! 3000lbs 330hp and can be had under 30k.
is a 370z really that light? Thought it would at least be equal to a GTI, not lighter.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:01 PM   #341
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^agreed. I thought it was heavier.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:05 PM   #342
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is a 370z really that light? Thought it would at least be equal to a GTI, not lighter.
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^agreed. I thought it was heavier.
crap you guys are right... its about 3200 :-/
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:23 PM   #343
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Anyone watched this review that MotorTrend put up recently? It's a very positive review, perhaps too positive.



Really want one now after watching this
Hell of a review
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:06 AM   #344
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The president of the toronto subaru club was invited to a secret location to test drive the new brz, if you are interested, you can follow the thread here.
http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/f...uy-vs-brz.html

He hasn't done the review just yet, but it's on it's way.

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Old 05-03-2012, 08:14 AM   #345
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Matched against a Mustang V6 w/Track Pack:

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Old 05-03-2012, 08:53 AM   #346
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Matched against a Mustang V6 w/Track Pack:

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*face palm*

Subaru seriously needs a turbo in it. But even then with pricing after a turbo, you'd probably be better off with a 5.0
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:25 AM   #347
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Yeah the BRZ would be a beast with 50-100 more hp. That chassis deserves it. But even as it is, really impressive. Currently there are no better drivers' cars for the money.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:34 AM   #348
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Yeah the BRZ would be a beast with 50-100 more hp. That chassis deserves it. But even as it is, really impressive. Currently there are no better drivers' cars for the money.
Oh I completely agree. I'm hoping a lot of people buy these so it'll spark other companies to produce affordable rwd coupes. I just think it was a slap in the face that the v6 mustang was a second faster around the lap and can be had for the same price pretty much. Also I heard the new miata is suppose to be going back to its "roots"...idk what that means, but competition is always good (but I'd never own a miata).
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:44 AM   #349
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Definitely. The demand for the BRZ right now is ridiculous. Most Subaru dealerships predict they'll sell out their individual allocations. Other manufacturers have got to see the market for lightweight RWD sports cars is worth chasing.

As for the Miata, I hear Mazda's pushing for 2200 lb curb weight and smaller dimensions. I don't think I could drive a car smaller than the current Miata, but pretty exciting anyway.
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Old 05-03-2012, 09:51 AM   #350
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For those interested, this is from Car and Driver’s June 2012 issue. Full road test of the BRZ.

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...napoleon-1.pdf

There is no question it is a great car. As many already know, acceleration is its weak link. C&D recorded a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds. However the fine print states that involved a high-rpm clutch drop. C&D’s 5-60 time was 8.0 seconds, which in theory represents max “daily driving” acceleration.

This is perhaps the greatest disparity between a 0-60 time and a 5-60 time I can recall. In comparison, when C&D tested the MKV GTI (6MT), they recorded a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds and a 5-60 time of 7.2 seconds. Because of turbo lag, 5-60 times make turbocharged cars look much worse than they really are. But an 8.0 second 5-60 time for the BRZ reveals its true lack of torque.

I respect that car a lot. But with no usable back seat, bad highway gearing, and the need for 93 octane fuel only (it can’t take 91 octane), the car is not for me. Besides, if you look at the comparative statistics for “competitors,” the GTI costs less, has shorter stopping distances, accelerates faster and has higher skid pad numbers.
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