careful... folks round these parts are going to start questioning your manhood if you even talk about how much a car costs. you're only a true enthusiast if you are willing to pay $40000 for a Golf. that means you're serious. my GTI was 22.5k, had less than 10k miles on it CPO when i bought it. sunroof/convenience pkg, rubber mats, etc. even 30k for a GTI seems silly to me. im guilty of mexico uncertainty as well.. its probably unfounded but i have prejudices from music gear: guitars, etc.. never as good from mexico as from the US.
ive said it once and ill say it again, this makes me feel like BMW et al are a fucking scam. Its a BMW. it should come with that shit standard. its absurd all that stuff are part of these silly option packages.. thats why all you have to do is wait like a year and start combing the early lease returns. buy a new 3 for 50k with all the goodies or wait 12-18 months for one to pop up on the dealer lot, CPO, with 12k miles on it for $37.5. happens all the time.
Wasn't the mk iv gti made in Mexico? I believe Mine was. And it had gobs of issues. Straight out of the gate. Mostly little gremlins.
I also wouldn't be interested in buying a first or probably second year VW new model. So I guess I'm good to go for a few years if I want to keep my r.
I had an smg e46 m3 before the gti then r, I prefer the r for many reasons
By the time I get my next car, I'd probably be ready to go back to paddles. The smg was just an awful implementation. The vag tranny is much better, however I agree with other posters who think it's boring. It's better for numbers,number to drive.
I'm not sold on the looks. But I didn't care for the mk v either.
I also don't know about VW quality these days. Didn't have any probs wih the gti, but I telecommute and don't rack up miles. Extended warranty I suppose for the r.
Its almost a coin toss between them. Most likely I keep my MK6 and get the S3 or R. Test drives will be interesting when I can get them.
