Well, I guess I won't be joining the GTI club after all. Wound up getting a 15 Mazda 6. Paid less for it than the GTI. Wife liked it better. I could've gone either way. The 6 does everything well, gets 38mpg on regular fuel and should cost a lot less to maintain. I've had 3 Mazdas previously and had very few issues. Thanks again for the replies.