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Old 10-11-2013, 02:05 AM   #15
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I think it's a pretty good motor, easy to work on, and the weak points above are easily fixable.

When I had my GTI, I drove the crap out of it with a Ko4 and enjoyed a track day every month where the car would be driven at competition level speeds... it did have it's issues which may be related to too aggressive a tune at the time causing overheating... or just the number of track miles I had (actual race cars get their engines rebuilt every season... and I did probably the equivalent of 4 race seasons in the 60,000 miles I had the car)

Now Ko4 hardware is in my wife's VW CC running a different companies software... driven daily stop and go commuter type miles by a female that doesn't understand why you don't floor it while the engine is cold and always tries to get ahead of the cars next to her instead of hypermiling along with an occasional track day... and her car is running just fine

On the other hand I replaced my GTI with a V8 M3... although I have no issues with my car... I've found out that other M3's are going through rod bearing failures that at a minimum may need rod bearing replacements every 50,000 to 75,000 miles as preventative maintenance to a maximum of shelling out $25,000 for a new engine...

So that being said... issues with the GTI where easier and cheaper to fix...
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:11 AM   #16
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Over 330WHP/WTQ with a stock engine for 10k miles of hard driving; no problems yet.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:19 AM   #17
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Over 330WHP/WTQ with a stock engine for 10k miles of hard driving; no problems yet.
Good to hear. On a side note isnt that much power a b**** to handle?!
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:17 AM   #18
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Power with FWD car is a bitch. It's great that fortunately torque steer does not find us. I'm stage one and have trouble not spinning the tires around an easily manageable corner. I'm not saying I have the power that some of these K04, and Stage 3 guys have, but it goes to show how quickly you run upon the wall that is the FWD limit.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:20 AM   #19
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Maybe just a stage 1 tune. Possibly stage 2. If I can get 250-260 whp safely then I would be happy. when my funds increase and the warranty is up more will come.
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youll be fine my car hasnt given me any problems at all. Just have extra Red top coils in the trunk lol
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:28 AM   #20
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Maybe just a stage 1 tune. Possibly stage 2. If I can get 250-260 whp safely then I would be happy. when my funds increase and the warranty is up more will come.
Stage 2 - I will be at 90,000 miles in the next 5 days. No issues.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:29 AM   #21
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I find the engine to be pretty durable. Common issues are the waterpump, intake manifold and coilpacks...which will fail regardless of anything you do to the car. Fuel injectors and kind of common to fail, but it seems to be hit or miss. Less common, but still happen are high pressure fuel pumps. Even less common are the timing chain tensioner which is catastrophic.

I've been stage 2 since 3000 miles, and k04 since 27000 and am now at 59000. I've had the water pump and intake manifold replaced under warranty. I'm not nice to the car and it sees WOT pulls multiple times a day and the limiter almost daily. It'll hold up to a lot of abuse, for a long time. Just make sure you maintain it properly!
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Power with FWD car with shitty tires is a bitch. It's great that fortunately torque steer does not find us. I'm stage one and have trouble not spinning the tires around an easily manageable corner. I'm not saying I have the power that some of these K04, and Stage 3 guys have, but it goes to show how quickly you run upon the wall when you don't have appropriate tires.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:04 AM   #23
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Stage 2 - I will be at 90,000 miles in the next 5 days. No issues.
Nice! That puts me a little more at ease.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:07 AM   #24
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I find the engine to be pretty durable. Common issues are the waterpump, intake manifold and coilpacks...which will fail regardless of anything you do to the car. Fuel injectors and kind of common to fail, but it seems to be hit or miss. Less common, but still happen are high pressure fuel pumps. Even less common are the timing chain tensioner which is catastrophic.

I've been stage 2 since 3000 miles, and k04 since 27000 and am now at 59000. I've had the water pump and intake manifold replaced under warranty. I'm not nice to the car and it sees WOT pulls multiple times a day and the limiter almost daily. It'll hold up to a lot of abuse, for a long time. Just make sure you maintain it properly!
Your warranty stayed with a k04 swap?! I figured it'd be out of the question if I went that far!
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:08 AM   #25
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youll be fine my car hasnt given me any problems at all. Just have extra Red top coils in the trunk lol
Nice numbers but you're DSG. Arent those A LOT better at taking power and abuse?
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Nice numbers but you're DSG. Arent those A LOT better at taking power and abuse?
Engine is the same.
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Yea I figured that but I was taking about 6MT and the clutch sucking haha
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yeah the clutch will need to be replaced for you at some point, but the engine is plenty durable - good oil, smart intervals - maintenance up to date - you will be fine.
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