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Old 10-11-2013, 10:22 AM   #29
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I would summarize it this way. The motor is fundamentally very strong and takes power very well as others have said. But regardless of the power added, there are some weak points that fail intermittently. The water pump, intake manifold flappers, coil packs and the timing chain tensioner tend to fail. Only the last is catastrophic. The others require immediate attention but are $250, $250 and $80 to replace, respectively (and without installation, if that's your thing).
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Old 10-11-2013, 11:18 AM   #30
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Your warranty stayed with a k04 swap?! I figured it'd be out of the question if I went that far!
Yep. Just have to find a dealer that isn't a doushebag. I've been good for 2/3 dealers.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:03 PM   #31
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yeah the clutch will need to be replaced for you at some point, but the engine is plenty durable - good oil, smart intervals - maintenance up to date - you will be fine.
Sounds good. Thanks.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:33 PM   #32
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I agree, because I beat the piss out of mine sometimes. Only had a cracked intake manifold replaced under warranty. I didn't even have a cel and my dealership just replaced it because they noticed it.
These engines do seem to be able to support a lot of hp. The weak part is the clutch. Many people have slip issues w/ only stage I. That is what I worry about the most.
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Old 10-13-2013, 01:29 PM   #33
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Ive heard at 50k things go south with even a mild tune.
I don't know where you are finding this misinformation, the TSI is a good motor. There are some common problems, but regular maintenance mitigates most of them. I'm stage 1 at 80k, only the original intake manifold was replaced at 48k.
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Old 10-13-2013, 01:57 PM   #34
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whole lot of nothing floating around on this thread. yeah great, DSG can take a whole lot more abuse, in theory, until it can't and the dealer laughs at you with your K04 or whatever and it costs you half the value of your car to replace that marvel of modern technology. for $1500 or so you can upgrade clutch, flywheel, etc. and hold whatever power you throw at it. if you notice, the majority of the videos APR posts testing stage2, k04, stage III etc. are on MT equipped cars. stock may not hold it but a relatively cheap upgrade will put down that power all day long. there are also guys on here who have had some major problems upgrading k04 and beyond.. the one guy who bent a rod comes to mind.. there are others.
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #35
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Power with FWD car with shitty tires is a bitch. It's great that fortunately torque steer does not find us. I'm stage one and have trouble not spinning the tires around an easily manageable corner. I'm not saying I have the power that some of these K04, and Stage 3 guys have, but it goes to show how quickly you run upon the wall when you don't have appropriate tires.
This, Bender..

Honestly, when I was first tuned, I was baffled at the amount of power the car actually had and how easily it reached it's limitations on the factory Dunlop's. Just switched to Pilot Sport A/S 3 and what a world of difference.
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So I've been doing a bit of digging and I read that the 2.0T isn't a very tough motor when it comes to adding power. My question is what exactly is the weak point in the motor?
Ive been running a k04 for 35000 mi. Ive had a hpfp go out at 2000 mi, waterpump at 26000 and a 2 coilpacks. The car does sip oil, about a quart per 5000 mi. Beyond that im putting down 315 whp on cali 91 octane with giac. Ive ripped the car in the snow, in 115 degree nevada heat and ive had no issues really other than turbo lag. In my opinion this motor is very strong.
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Old 10-13-2013, 07:23 PM   #37
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Ive been running a k04 for 35000 mi. Ive had a hpfp go out at 2000 mi, waterpump at 26000 and a 2 coilpacks. The car does sip oil, about a quart per 5000 mi. Beyond that im putting down 315 whp on cali 91 octane with giac. Ive ripped the car in the snow, in 115 degree nevada heat and ive had no issues really other than turbo lag. In my opinion this motor is very strong.
25K miles on APR Stage 3, a few track days, and this car is my daily driver.

I must be an anomaly because I've had zero issues with the car after going Stage 3.

I guess I'm on good tires, Kumho Ecsta 4Xs, because I'm not having the bucking bronco/tire shredding issues that other GTI drivers have.

Also, I can't tell if I'm burning oil. I check my oil, air, and washer fluid monthly and sometimes I top off oil and sometimes I don't. And I use whatever 5w30 or 5w40 I can get at Wal-Mart.

In terms of fueling, I am on my 93 octane tune, and I fill up with whatever is convenient, WaWa 92 octane, 7-Eleven, Citgo, Shell, etc.

However, there is one thing that I do not do that other GTI owners do, I don't go to the dealer for anything.

All my maintenance, since 5k miles, has been done by the same shop, Europros Yorktown, who installed my Stage 3 kit, I've had them do all the 10K maintenance points, and occasionally I'll do the 5K oil changes with my Wal-Mart oil.
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