I test drove several different kinds of cars and slowly settled on 4 door base manual GTI. I only talked to one dealer and their price was over MSRP and sales person would not lower it gthey also did not have the olor tht I wanted). I am in no rush - can buy tomorrow or can wait a few months. I will start calling some other dealers tomorow. I was wondering what would be a good price (I live in Los Angeles area)?