Stadpad
Go Kart Champion
get the real good tires!!!! trust me.
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$10k big turbo budget or k04
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get the real good tires!!!! trust me.
Just wanted to set things straight BT ownership is not all about SHIFTSECTOR, or trailer queens that don't get used. Not a world filled with boost lag and impossible traction. and undailyable cars. as is commonly mentioned.
I have anything but the above with my BT.
Most of us probably came from the K04 world and if you asked most of us if we would ever go back the answer would be...NO!
So if you are asking a crowd of what is better and listen to answers from people that have never actually been on both sides then you are doing it wrong.
No doubt K04 is great and more afforable and reliable too, BT is greater and semi-affordable and reliable too.
or that ^
This is funny, my car is perfectly reliable. Why because it built correctly and tuned correctly. I do not log my car all the time to make sure I'm not pulling to much timing, etc. I also am not blowing boost pipes off, ruining pcvs, cleaning valves all the time, checkingmy spark plugs every other week....
Yes I only drive it 6-8k a year now, why because its my poor mans GT2. The car can do it but why. I have sunk countless hours of my own time and money into it and want to keep enjoying it and not worry about other people damaging it while I'm working etc. Also I'm in the snow belt which is great for keeping cars nice. I have a cheap daily I can drive and not worry about so much.
I'm almost double ko4 power and with 35k on the built motor. 40k on the car itself, been BT since 5-6k. I dailyed the car up to about 30k miles.
I drive it wherever and don't worry about it because its great and did I mention its stupid fast.
Motodude310
Go Kart Champion
Wait, Shadow. How the hell are your clutches slipping on K04? Something else going on there!
Tk_mkv1
Go Kart Champion
this
i'd get a better car by selling the GTI n extra $10k for a better car combined together, like mustang GT, WRX, STI, 370z, downpayment on m235i, but hey different strokes for different folks.
That post was obviously not directly related at you, but just at BT owners in general. I feel like if most people's BT cars were their poor mans GT2, they would get driven like a GT2 should, and I do not think they would hold up like a GT2 would.
It's a personal opinion. I've owned BT cars, help friends build BT cars, etc. it's never going to be the same as a small OEM turbo upgrade. It's never going to be daily-able. As retarded as fireball was, he seemed like the only guy out there beating on his car like it was a GT2, and look at how well his holds up. Or Patrick with the GLi, he's out there racing and driving his like it should be driven and it's on a trailer every other week.
And on another note, I think having a "daily" is just dumb. If you are going to dump a bunch of money in a car I want to drive it. I also live in the rust belt, and drive 350+ miles a week and enjoy what I built everyday. Whether it be a Bugatti or a Jetta, I don't think there is a need to garage anything. It's a car. A material object. Spray the salt off and use touch up paint when needed and be extra careful. I DD'ed a MK3 for a winter 2 years ago while my brand new car sat in the garage, and then proceeded to realize how dumb I was and sold it.
Injen1us
Drag Race Newbie
I cannot agree with this enough! German winters can get pretty nasty and they are pretty generous with the salt. Most of my friends in the car scene (who dont drive evos or wrxs) hide their cars all winter. I think thats crazy.
But even after all that money its still just a car. I put it on a lift twice a year and steel wool any spots where rust might be developing. Frequent washes and waxes and always make sure to spray the undercarriage. The car will be fine.
Gunkata
Drag Race Newbie
Buy an Evo.
$10K is a lot, but its not too hard to do when you start modding several different aspects of the car. That said, stage 3 is "a lot" for this fwd platform. I think it definitely needs an LSD as well, if you go that route. Otherwise, K04 really is the best bang for you buck, imho.
$10K is a lot, but its not too hard to do when you start modding several different aspects of the car. That said, stage 3 is "a lot" for this fwd platform. I think it definitely needs an LSD as well, if you go that route. Otherwise, K04 really is the best bang for you buck, imho.
jay745
What Would Glenn Danzig Do
yeah i think you guys are missing the point.
As far as fireball is concerned, his car was not "built correctly." putting an mbc on an apr kit and trying to tune it yourself with his limited knowledge was dumb. regardless, the only thing that happened that i saw was a blown headgasket.
patricks gli is a franken setup. if you are going into uncharted territory it'll be hard to know the limits until you hit them. idk about his tuning issues, but his axle issues were since the gli axles were weaker from my understanding. but APR was doing his custom tuning, so yeah.
plenty of people daily stage 3+ kits. only reason you see a lot of cars down in the winter is because they are being rebuilt bigger and better. having a daily is smart when you have clutches that don't like cold weather or you want to reduce how much time you're driving a turbo in subfreezing temps. all you have to do is get a fun reliable daily and you're good to go. but without one you'll won't really understand.
i just don't see why you would build a car and then drive it through salt and snow. instead of having one all-purpose car, you have two (or however many) that each serve a purpose. simple concept.
USPMotorsports
Ready to race!
^This.
We have customers from young to seasoned that own and daily drive Stage 3 to Stage 3+ cars every day. It comes down to how much power do you want. There does come a point where cars are no longer reliable daily drivers.
I can see a GTX28, GTX30 maybe a smaller PTE58 set up to be driven every day. I am actually looking forward to IEs new kit. All which can be daily driven and be around the 400WHP range.
Once you go beyond that IMO the car will become more difficult to drive everyday.
Phil