I got very close to invoice + $9400 for my trade. You just have to fight for it.
Where did you find invoice prices? I didn't see them posted on this site yet.
you have to negotiate them down to invoice.
Oh I know that. I meant like do you know what the actual invoice prices are or do just negotiate saying you want to pay invoice without knowing the actual numbers? I've only seen the retail prices posted here.
Though my car hasn't arrived yet, I negotiated everything ahead of time. I got $500 over invoice, which sounded good at the time, but I've read some people have gotten invoice or lower. I had 3+ dealerships I was talking to, but $500 over invoice was the lowest anyone would go at the time (Aug). To be honest, the dealership I went with in the end has been pretty quick to respond to any questions, so I don't mind paying a little extra.
I suggest doing what I did and just be aggressive - start talking with 3 or more dealerships via email (don't waste your time driving anywhere), and just have them keep bidding lower and lower. Also, have them put it in writing that they show you the official invoice at time of purchase.