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Old 12-15-2017, 11:38 AM   #15
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Been through two in 5 years lol. Attribute it to my dash cam and short commute. I dropped in a motomaster eliminator. The one with the ice pick up commercial. Had OEM before that.


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I used this one in my old 4Runner and would go with it again... Never had an issue in 3 years, albeit it's a lot warmer here than Ontario. 5 year warranty and it's got that AGM shiet in it, no idea what that does, but 5 year warranty and OPTIMA specs, plus good reviews... no brainer I'd go back to it.
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Old 12-15-2017, 12:44 PM   #16
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LOL, mine was fine too. Just needed a quick boost from my basement-stored (with Battery Tender Junior) Costco marine battery and then a couple of battery charger sessions to get it back to normal. Everything looks good with the Princess Auto Autel AL439 tester. I think the car didn't see enough use as we entered the cold. Started up just fine both yesterday and today which were even colder mornings, around -15C or so.

But that first day I did lots of preliminary shopping and thought I would post up the results. First of all, when this 6yr&1mo old battery craps out, I will be getting another OEM one from the dealer.

The old Varta part # 5K0915105D has been superceded by a stronger one with part # 000915105DEDSP. The old one has served me well and the specs are changed (i.e. improved) as follows: 60 Ah to 61 Ah, 280 A DIN to 330 A DIN, and CCA of 480 A to 540 A. Two dealers at $138 and one at $139.38. Since my weaker one is past six years and still going, the new one is what I will eventually buy and stay OEM and hope for even lengthier and superior service.

Costco had two listings for the '12 GTI;
# 270552 Kirkland Fitment Code 24, H6, 730 CCA, $119.99
# 1114556 Kirkland Fitment Code 32, H5, 650 CCA, $114.99

Walmart had two as well, only one in stock to look at;
Maxx EverStart MAXX-47N, H5, 650 CCA, $136.97
Maxx EverStart MAXX-H6, H6, ??? CCA, $144.97

Canadian Tire seemed to have six choices ranging from $133.99 to $209.99 at the time.

A parts place on Elgin Mills offered two;
Ustart, $128.12
Exide (Classic?), 600 CCA, $161.59

Dealer OEM again for me, when the time comes! $138 seems OK.
You sure that replacement battery from the dealer is another Varta?

I could be wrong, but thought I read that the replacement batteries stocked by dealers are made in North America, and not the same Vartas that came as OE in the car from Germany.
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Old 12-15-2017, 01:10 PM   #17
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You sure that replacement battery from the dealer is another Varta?

I could be wrong, but thought I read that the replacement batteries stocked by dealers are made in North America, and not the same Vartas that came as OE in the car from Germany.
No, I don't know and thanks for the info. Here is a pic of the new OEM from VW's website https://owners.vwmodels.ca/parts/batteries/

My "Plan B" would probably be to try to cram in the below Kirkland H6 bad-boy from Costco. Hopefully lots of time to find out more, if there are issues or drastic price changes with the OEM.







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Old 12-15-2017, 11:51 PM   #18
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You sure that replacement battery from the dealer is another Varta?

I could be wrong, but thought I read that the replacement batteries stocked by dealers are made in North America, and not the same Vartas that came as OE in the car from Germany.
I have replaced my battery last year after about 6.5 years. And I had the same thought process of going with OEM since the one I had lasted very well.

However, after some research, and actually calling different dealers and asking what batteries they are selling, the OEM here is NOT Varta. Varta is only available in Europe, and is made By Johnson Controls (same guys behind Interstate, Kirkland, EverStart) and although some dealers supposedly carry Interstate, the ones I called said that all they have is Exide in stock. And their warranty was pretty bad by comparison. I forget the details exactly, but it was something around 1 year full replacement, and somewhere up to 2 years pro-rated. Exide also makes the batteries for Canadian Tire.

Based on my research, Johnson Controls seem to be the best choice, while Exide... not so much. That being said, Interstate and Kirkland DO NOT have the correct size for the MK6 GTI. The ones they do have are for the TDI IIRC, but they WILL fit in the GTI, you just won't be able to use that insulation that covers your battery atm. And since they're larger, they are also a little heavier, and I didn't want any more weight upfront. So I ended up going with Walmart's Everstart (made by Jonson Controls) since it is the right fit for the GTI, and comes with a decent warranty of 5 years - pro-rated. Not as good as Cosco's, but still decent.

The battery you need is Group 47. In the pics above you show 48. Again, it'll fit, but it is a tad larger.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 12-16-2017, 01:46 AM   #19
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...Kirkland DO NOT have the correct size for the MK6 GTI. The ones they do have are for the TDI IIRC, but they WILL fit in the GTI, you just won't be able to use that insulation that covers your battery atm. And since they're larger, they are also a little heavier, and I didn't want any more weight upfront. So I ended up going with Walmart's Everstart (made by Jonson Controls) since it is the right fit for the GTI, and comes with a decent warranty of 5 years - pro-rated. Not as good as Cosco's, but still decent.

The battery you need is Group 47. In the pics above you show 48. Again, it'll fit, but it is a tad larger.

Just my 2 cents.
Isn't the also mentioned Costco Kirkland # 1114556 Kirkland Fitment Code 32, H5, 650 CCA, $114.99 a direct fit then? (With regards to Group Size, I assume that DIN H5 is the same as BCI 47.)

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Old 12-16-2017, 10:27 AM   #20
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Been through two in 5 years lol. Attribute it to my dash cam and short commute. I dropped in a motomaster eliminator. The one with the ice pick up commercial. Had OEM before that.
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So far so good. It comes with a 5 year warranty. And it has similar tech to the optima (AGM) and deep cycle. The reviews are pretty good on CT. My real test will be in two years to see how it's doing vs. OEM.
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I used this one in my old 4Runner and would go with it again... Never had an issue in 3 years, albeit it's a lot warmer here than Ontario. 5 year warranty and it's got that AGM shiet in it, no idea what that does, but 5 year warranty and OPTIMA specs, plus good reviews... no brainer I'd go back to it.
Here is some battery info from Canadian Tire from yesterday, Dec. 15, 2017:





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Old 01-04-2018, 04:11 PM   #21
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Those Eliminator ones seem really nice on spec. It would be cool to see a guy like AvE do a review on these. The CCA numbers are good, but is this one of those specs that battery guys inflate?

Any reason the dealers don't stock the batteries that come with the car?
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I have replaced my battery last year after about 6.5 years. And I had the same thought process of going with OEM since the one I had lasted very well.

However, after some research, and actually calling different dealers and asking what batteries they are selling, the OEM here is NOT Varta. Varta is only available in Europe, and is made By Johnson Controls (same guys behind Interstate, Kirkland, EverStart) and although some dealers supposedly carry Interstate, the ones I called said that all they have is Exide in stock. And their warranty was pretty bad by comparison. I forget the details exactly, but it was something around 1 year full replacement, and somewhere up to 2 years pro-rated. Exide also makes the batteries for Canadian Tire.

Based on my research, Johnson Controls seem to be the best choice, while Exide... not so much. That being said, Interstate and Kirkland DO NOT have the correct size for the MK6 GTI. The ones they do have are for the TDI IIRC, but they WILL fit in the GTI, you just won't be able to use that insulation that covers your battery atm. And since they're larger, they are also a little heavier, and I didn't want any more weight upfront. So I ended up going with Walmart's Everstart (made by Jonson Controls) since it is the right fit for the GTI, and comes with a decent warranty of 5 years - pro-rated. Not as good as Cosco's, but still decent.

The battery you need is Group 47. In the pics above you show 48. Again, it'll fit, but it is a tad larger.

Just my 2 cents.


Great info, you research very well !

I go with Walmart for all my batteries.
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Those Eliminator ones seem really nice on spec. It would be cool to see a guy like AvE do a review on these. The CCA numbers are good, but is this one of those specs that battery guys inflate?

Any reason the dealers don't stock the batteries that come with the car?
Iím thinking it just doesnít make economic sense to ship a heavy battery all the way from Europe when there are plenty of batteries being made in North America. Any battery thatís the right size will do, so may as well source the cheapest/closest ones.

Not sure what Iíll do when mine dies. Itís almost 8 years old now and still going strong, even in the cold weather recently.

I put one of those Motomaster Eliminator AGMs in our SUV a few years ago and itís been fine so far. Thereís a Cdn Tire down the street, so Iíd probably go that way again if the GTIís dies unexpectedly and I need a replacement quick.

If it dies slowly and I have some time to shop, Iíd probably rather go to Costco for the replacement.
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Lightbulb Lesson Learnt ...

The morning I posted my last post, the temperature outside was like -31 celcius with wind chill, when I turned the key nothing happened, I was sure reading this thread the night was a Jinx, i thought the worst but after hooking up my charger with a Start function the same thing happened, there was more to the problem.

After trying a few times I noticed a German message starting with Kom..... flashing up, I pushed the clutch all the way to the floor and she fired right up.

Lesson Learnt !
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I replaced the Varta last year and researched our options (available in Canada) pretty thoroughly Ė at least within reason.

My first pick would've been the OEM Varta - but the handful of dealers I called at the time weren't selling the exact one. It served me well and I like the construction/build quality. Totally impressed that you can check water level from the opaque sidewalls.

Second choice was the Eliminator Ultra AGM. Loved the specs, that it was AGM, the 5 year warranty and certified Canadian cuz let's be real.. -30, -40s ain't "normal."

Ended up picking the third option though, Costco's AGM. I found it to be the most cost-effective AGM. But as mentioned.. it's one of the batteries that fit but not exact. The slight increase in weight didn't bother me much, however, the fitment did for a while. Groups size is 24F. The two main issues:

a) the terminals are not sunken down/embeded like the H5/H6 (see photos below). You won't be able to clip/lock the hard box cover. Around the height of the MAF plug.

b) the lip at the bottom edge of the battery is not as prominent. Make sure the metal bracket used to hold the battery down (left side towards intake) is secure.

I believe it was $170 all in ($180 after tax plus $10 back when you return your old batt. That's $70 less than Eliminator ($260 after tax and $20 return). Not a huge amount, I agree, but considering you can get Costco's H6 for $125 all in.

I quickly contributed the savings towards other mods

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