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Old Today, 09:58 AM   #5951
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If you're K04 there is absolutely NO reason to waste time/money/energy on the F23. If you want to go big turbo, expect to pay at least 3k for a used kit and a base tune. If you don't have either a lot of money or a lot of knowledge big turbo is not the way to go.

In my opinion, stay K04. It's reliable, it works, you don't have to mess with it. Take your 3k and buy either a Miata for the track or something with an LS motor.

I wouldn't even worry about the rods. 99% of rod failure on the TSI seem to be either fueling related on oil related.
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Old Today, 10:12 AM   #5952
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If you're K04 there is absolutely NO reason to waste time/money/energy on the F23. If you want to go big turbo, expect to pay at least 3k for a used kit and a base tune. If you don't have either a lot of money or a lot of knowledge big turbo is not the way to go.



In my opinion, stay K04. It's reliable, it works, you don't have to mess with it. Take your 3k and buy either a Miata for the track or something with an LS motor.



I wouldn't even worry about the rods. 99% of rod failure on the TSI seem to be either fueling related on oil related.


The gti is my second car. It is the project car.

I'm pretty knowledgeable. I've built motors before (Nissan stuff). The hardware is absolutely not a problem. The only thing I leave to the pros is the tuning. I've got enough connections with people who build real race cars I could fabricate if needed. I definitely know what I'm doing. Not my first rodeo and not your standard v-dub kid lol.

I've thought a lot about building a project car, at this stage in life I don't have anywhere to build a car from the ground up. I love this car, I don't wanna get rid of it. Just wanna make it faster.

I know it's not cheap that's why I'm talking long term. I don't have $10k laying around, if I did I probably wouldn't be fucking with a gti. But money comes with time, so cost is just restricted by time. I'm not in a hurry.


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Old Today, 10:31 AM   #5953
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there's a guy selling his stage 3 kit on fb for $2500 i believe. i'd pull the trigger on that. you can make good usable power and have a lot of room to grow. i'm not a big fan of the f23t either. while the numbers are impressive, moving the power up top instead of increasing the spike down low will make more, safer, usable power and is plenty of fun.

plus you don't have to spend all the money up front. get a tune and a boost controller and you can bump it up yourself as you go (i.e. adding fueling, building motor, etc.)
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If you already have an intake, might as well just go big turbo while you're in the engine bay. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Today, 10:45 AM   #5954
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Also, I got the head off and found my issue. All of the intake-side rockers except for one came off of the lifters. It looks like the lifter retaining clips bent and then popped off. You can see the rockers slid down the valve spring but the edge stayed on the lifters, so the cams were still were able to move the valves. you can even see how the cam oscillations made them chew into the head. One of the rockers came off completely and fell into the valley between the intake/exhaust sides. You can tell by the valves that one cylinder was running super rich since it was only getting half as much air.

The good news is without rockers, the valves don't move, so no damage to the pistons still trying to figure out next steps but will for sure need a new intake cam. Everything else looks salvageable except i need new clips for the lifters.

So here are pics of what an occasional high-rpm misfire/ticking sound looks like:

















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Old Today, 10:47 AM   #5955
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Old Today, 11:04 AM   #5956
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Theres a company in south africa that's been developing a fix for failures like this. I've been in contact with them about having mine done when they move to start production but it sounds like they're still a few months out

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Old Today, 11:52 AM   #5957
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yeah that clip is pretty flimsy. i bent it back into place with 2 fingers while messing with everything and was able to get it to hold. i guess with everything under compression it's less likely to come loose but this was my fuckup in the end
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there's a guy selling his stage 3 kit on fb for $2500 i believe. i'd pull the trigger on that. you can make good usable power and have a lot of room to grow. i'm not a big fan of the f23t either. while the numbers are impressive, moving the power up top instead of increasing the spike down low will make more, safer, usable power and is plenty of fun.

plus you don't have to spend all the money up front. get a tune and a boost controller and you can bump it up yourself as you go (i.e. adding fueling, building motor, etc.)


That's not a bad idea. If I had the cash I would. But certainly something to look out for when the time comes.

And I saw your head on FB, shits crazy...


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