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Old 10-09-2017, 07:13 PM   #1
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Black Forest Industries Stage 1 Mount Kit - DSG

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Product: Black Forest Industries Stage 1 Mount Kit - DSG
Price: $389.99
Part number: EBFISTG1-4CYL-FA


This review is because I really needed new mounts and I did not see many reviews with performance mounts and a DSG

Includes:
ē One complete replacement 2.0T engine side mount
ē One complete replacement 6-speed manual/DSG mount
ē One torque arm / dogbone insert
ē Installation hardware

Install:
This was straight forward and only taking about two hours from first sip of my morning coffee to cleaning the torque wrench and putting it away. I did use a jack and large socket to slide the Dogbone mount in. It is just easier than trying to fight with it. Black Forest Industries has easy to follow videos on youtube on how to perform the install to include the TQ values.

Driving:
Mounts are a hard choice because they are not a HP mod and they donít give you cool points in the car show parking lot. This along with being nervous before turning the key, because everywhere you look someone is complaining about the mounts they installed and the car shaking apart. I think this mostly comes from people installing just the Dogbone or mismatching mount sets. That is why I choice a match set that is designed to work together. This I hope would negate the fact of it being a DSG. I thought for sure I was in for shake city. NOT the case.

These make such a big difference in the way my car feels! There is a reason the performance mounts are a motorsports upgrade, because the give you an instant tip in throttle response! Give it more of the old school mechanical feel. The DSG shifts are much firmer to the point of marking the DSG fart more audible! Now when I rev it in idle there is zero engine movement and this really translates on the street under load. This also eliminates the shaking of the exhaust system which will save you from leaks and stress on your downpipe mounts. Yes, I have had to change my DP mount because the movement from the factory engine mounts torn it apart.

Onto the big question shaking. These are 70a durometer mounts so they are not the hardest or the softest. The DSG at Idle in Park no difference in noise, vibration, or harshness (NVH). Shift into reverse and maybe a 2-3% increase - little vib through the seat of your pants. Driving no difference in NVH. Sitting in traffic again maybe 4% but if you donít have your hand on the wheel (passenger) you wonít notice. May wife rode in the car and did not notice a difference so it passed my wife test! If you thought, you were going to increase performance and not have to give a small amount you are moding the wrong car. Every upgrade we make changes the way, the how, the when with these cars. This upgrade is so worth what little down side there is I give it a thumbs up for sure!!

Website: https://store.blackforestindustries....mk5mk6st1.html

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DSG Dogbone Mount installed






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Old 10-09-2017, 07:49 PM   #2
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Looks awesome. Itís a must when adding power. Just gotta bite the bullet and buy em and throw em in. I think doing all mounts especially keeping them as a set is the smartest thing you can do. Good review bro. Quality looks unreal.
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Old 10-09-2017, 07:56 PM   #3
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Thanks man!
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:35 PM   #4
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Great review!
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I just donít think these mounts would work for people like myself with catch cans that mount to the engine mount. Hmmm.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:33 AM   #6
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There has to be a work around or a alt place to mount the catch can. I know some mount to the oem bolt, that is an easy fix just buy one oem bolt with the threads on it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:39 AM   #7
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the most vibrations I get are when starting off, especially in reverse. I think my car has BF mounts as well (got the car with them) and driving wise, I love them, but holy F*** does she shake hard upon creeping and takeoff.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:34 AM   #8
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the most vibrations I get are when starting off, especially in reverse. I think my car has BF mounts as well (got the car with them) and driving wise, I love them, but holy F*** does she shake hard upon creeping and takeoff.
Check your mounts. If they have black rubber then they're stage 1; green rubber and they're stage 2. Stage 2 has higher durometer rubber which means more vibration. I'm interested to see which you have.
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Mine are black. again pretty sure it's BFI, may have actually been 034, not positive unfortunately.

Also I do have a pendulum mount insert, not the full mount
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Mine are black. again pretty sure it's BFI, may have actually been 034, not positive unfortunately.

Also I do have a pendulum mount insert, not the full mount
BFI mounts look completely different than the 034 mounts (which are OE style)
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:40 PM   #11
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AHH gotcha, mine are INSERTS then! My bad! http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=118

sorry for the confusion, carry on! thanks.
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:00 AM   #12
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A couple hundred miles and a road trip with the family and these are awesome. Family did not notice anything and the response for the mounts is spot on. Two thumbs up for stg1.
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I have the 034 mounts...have some videos of the give of them vs stock....mine weren't harsh though. I also haved the insert, but took it out due to no pendulum mount and people claiming the stock unit can break with the solid aluminum inset 034 has.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:53 AM   #14
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The dogbone mount is in mine and doing great. Once I hit 1000 miles I will update and check all three mounts for any issues.
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