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Old 12-13-2017, 01:39 PM   #15
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Is 24 grown? idk just not get into trouble? if there is trouble just pay someone to take care of business LOL.
Yea 24 is grown. I'm a big dude, we could do a Rob & Big situation. You need security?
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:43 PM   #16
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- I've had my PSS10s for 3 years now and so far so good. I'm not too sure what you mean by dialed in? I have tracked on them for 12 times

- I corner balanced my car at my friend's house. We have the scale and we have a fairly leveled surface. We used lasers to double check each corner to see how much of a height delta per side was and it was marginal like 1/4 of an inch on one corner. We also made sliding plates so the car actually sits normally on the scale.

Check out my track vids if you want. This one was the track day after i got my car corner balanced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg-XAbFqNkA
Love the Video....Love that Elevation Change nice

Good Job...

Stay away from power mods until you get more comfortable on track...with your track experience then build power...my advice.

Your doing very well...your giving me hope I will mod my car and not sell it.


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Old 12-13-2017, 01:43 PM   #17
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Just "Dial In" is just making sure your sitting proper is all. Nothing fancy. I have seen cars off by a bit and they dont even know it. On my Evo's I did stuff myself thinking it was golden, took it to a pro and and found it was off a frickin mile.

Chassis tuning really is an art form. On FWD with High HP especially a proper chassis tune can make a huge difference.

Stock Performance can benefit as well. Made a HUGE difference in my Evo's even stock.

I am just having a hard time finding folks that actually know what they are doing to help me with mods IF I decide to go down that path. Im still stock after 5 yrs and no track time on this car at all.

Was VERY close to going with my Sister to a Street Legal AutoX session in San Diego last week, but running OEM brake pads and A/S tires? Im too competitive to run this car like that haha. Need at least some good rubber before I make my first attempt in my GTI. Qualcomm Stadium is getting demolished soon so not sure where SCCA will set up next. Hopefully not too far away...

I still have Chuckawalla Raceway not too far away, but its not for AutoX though.

Good Luck with your track time.


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Oh i see, yeah i pretty much try to get the car height even all around with a slight rake.

Honestly, I never liked AutoX because you can't really push your car to the limit to find the flaws. There are pros and cons of AutoX, but its just not my go to drink.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:45 PM   #18
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Love the Video....Love that Elevation Change nice

Good Job...

Stay away from power mods until you get more comfortable on track...with your track experience then build power...my advice.

Your doing very well...your giving me hope I will mod my car and not sell it.


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I'm pretty much at the limit of my car already. I'm already slowly picking up power mods, but havn't installed yet.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:51 PM   #19
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Oh i see, yeah i pretty much try to get the car height even all around with a slight rake.

Honestly, I never liked AutoX because you can't really push your car to the limit to find the flaws. There are pros and cons of AutoX, but its just not my go to drink.
I understand what your saying, but tracking is best taking in baby steps. Maybe I did it too gradually. I AutoX'd for a while to actually get driving dynamics down.

On my past cars, the car itself was FAR more capable than I ever was. That is for sure. I learned allot. Got SCARED allot and had tons of fun.

I have been there done that, things are different for me now, but I always appreciate seeing people track cars and of course I love the cars themselves.

I will be following your posts


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Old 12-13-2017, 02:07 PM   #20
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Here's a vid recently at Grattan in Belding MI. Really fun track with a lot of blind turns and elevation changes. Got held up by one of these pesky "fast cars" that wouldn't let me around him. This club was passing by point by only.



As far as chassis and suspension. I certainly hope I'm doing it right. This next season is going to be a game changer for me.

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Old 12-13-2017, 06:25 PM   #21
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Here's a vid recently at Grattan in Belding MI. Really fun track with a lot of blind turns and elevation changes. Got held up by one of these pesky "fast cars" that wouldn't let me around him. This club was passing by point by only.



As far as chassis and suspension. I certainly hope I'm doing it right. This next season is going to be a game changer for me.

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Jay You have an impressive Build overall, much respect. As for the chassis tuning, its all up to you, your driving if you like it, its doing what you want? Then you made the right choices.

For me? I just didn't want to do too much trial and error in my day. I asked allot of questions and went to the folks that raced on a level WWAAYY beyond my own.

I used their mistakes and experiences to save me money. haha.

Again, one set up for one car, may not work for one person due to drivers style but to just have an overall well balanced car is key.

Seems these MK6's have a good chassis to begin with. Which is awesome.

You guys seem to be doing a very good job at figuring it out yourselves. Again, Much Respect


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Old 12-13-2017, 06:28 PM   #22
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Jay You have an impressive Build overall, much respect. As for the chassis tuning, its all up to you, your driving if you like it, its doing what you want? Then you made the right choices.

For me? I just didn't want to do too much trial and error in my day. I asked allot of questions and went to the folks that raced on a level WWAAYY beyond my own.

I used their mistakes and experiences to save me money. haha.

Again, one set up for one car, may not work for one person due to drivers style but to just have an overall well balanced car is key.

Seems these MK6's have a good chassis to begin with. Which is awesome.

You guys seem to be doing a very good job at figuring it out yourselves. Again, Much Respect


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Thanks Jeff. I would love to talk to the same people who gave you advice. I'm looking for some myself when it comes to alignment specs. There's so much varying info out there, I tried asking in the midwest vw tracking group on facebook and got way too much conflicting info. Everyone becomes experts all of the sudden and it's hard to discern actual advice from people just repeating something they heard yadda yadda. I really don't want to undergo multiple alignments after each track day but I don't think I'm going to have much of a choice.
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Old 12-13-2017, 07:42 PM   #23
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I guess so. Are you grown or are you still growing? Serious question not trying to be an asshole. Also, how the fuck do you defend yourself?
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Old 12-13-2017, 10:47 PM   #24
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Thanks Jeff. I would love to talk to the same people who gave you advice. I'm looking for some myself when it comes to alignment specs. There's so much varying info out there, I tried asking in the midwest vw tracking group on facebook and got way too much conflicting info. Everyone becomes experts all of the sudden and it's hard to discern actual advice from people just repeating something they heard yadda yadda. I really don't want to undergo multiple alignments after each track day but I don't think I'm going to have much of a choice.
Camber: -2.8 front / -1.8 Rear
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Camber: -2.8 front / -1.8 Rear
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Talk to me more about this, I'm fairly new to the custom alignment game. People are telling me to toe in the rear, I don't really want to shred my tires. I got 11 days out of the tires I ran last season and it would be awesome to not sacrifice the longevity much which is leaning me towards 0 toe.
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Talk to me more about this, I'm fairly new to the custom alignment game. People are telling me to toe in the rear, I don't really want to shred my tires. I got 11 days out of the tires I ran last season and it would be awesome to not sacrifice the longevity much which is leaning me towards 0 toe.
The reason why ppl want a toe in, in the rear is because they want stability in the turns. Rear wheel drive cars make sense to have slight toe in so they can control the car if it slides. NEVER Toe out.

For FWD cars you should try to have 0 toe so you can have the car rotate.

This is a great guide if you're still tryna figure out if you want understeer or oversteer.
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Old 12-15-2017, 02:46 PM   #28
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Here's a vid recently at Grattan in Belding MI. Really fun track with a lot of blind turns and elevation changes. Got held up by one of these pesky "fast cars" that wouldn't let me around him. This club was passing by point by only.



As far as chassis and suspension. I certainly hope I'm doing it right. This next season is going to be a game changer for me.

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Jay, what are you using for tires in this video?
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