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Old 05-05-2013, 02:31 PM   #43
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stoptech should have a cutout that you can use to check the clearance with the caliper. i bet thats what they will probably send you. Should be available on the site though.
They only provide the one for the ST40 and not the STR 40.
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:37 PM   #44
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I cut the tether off. When I get to the pump, I remove the cap and chuck it into the nearest bush, patch of trees, or some sort of wet lands. I pump gas. Then I spend anywhere from 5 to 165 minutes retrieving the cap. I screw it back on and drive away. I'm not letting it dangle against the paint and I don't know any better way.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #45
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Posting this for the good of the forum. A reply from Erik @ Stoptech regarding clearance differences between ST40 and STR40...

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The overall dimensions between our Trophy and painted calipers have no significant difference and will use the same templates. If the templates indicate a very tight amount of space between the caliper and wheel spokes, it should be expected that wheel spacers will be required to make adequate room.

Let us know if you have any questions.
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Guess Im going to need spacers!
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:26 PM   #46
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Posting this for the good of the forum. A reply from Erik @ Stoptech regarding clearance differences between ST40 and STR40...


Guess Im going to need spacers!
Going with Neuspeed RSe12's which according to Neuspeed clear Brembo & Stop Tech BBK's, I'll probaly be going with stop tech's BBK with the 328 x 28 mm rotors & the R32 rear BBK.
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Old 05-21-2013, 07:47 PM   #47
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These STR calipers look awesome !! Guess they save some weight.




piston area



1. stock front:


O2 RS/Golf/GTI - Ate FN3 54 mm: 2290 mm˛

S3/R32/R - FNRG 57 mm: 2552 mm˛



2. aftermarket - fits properly:


AP Racing 6-pot CP7068 (355x32 ) > 2350 mm˛ (special version of CP7040-caliper for Golf V/VI, Scirocco etc.)

AP Racing 6-pot CP5570: 27.0 + 31.8 + 38.1 > 573 mm˛ + 794 mm˛ + 1140 mm˛ = 2507 mm˛

Audi TT-RS: 36 + 40 mm > 1018 mm˛ + 1257 mm˛ = 2275 mm˛

Boxster: 40 mm + 36 mm > 1257 mm˛ + 1018 mm˛ = 2275 mm˛

Boxster S: 40 mm + 36 mm > 1257 mm˛ + 1018 mm˛ = 2275 mm˛

993 Turbo: 36 + 44 mm > 1018 mm˛ + + 1520 mm˛ = 2538 mm˛

Brembo GT 'A-caliper': 40 mm + 36 mm > 1257 mm˛ + 1018 mm˛ = 2275 mm˛

Stoptech ST-40: 38 mm + 34 mm > 908 mm˛ + 1134 mm˛ = 2043 mm˛

Wilwood FNSL6R: 41.1 + 28.4 + 28.4 mm > 1330 + 636 + 636 mm˛ = 2602 mm˛

Mov'it:
4s2 - 36 / 44 = 2538 mm˛
4s3 - 36 / 44 = 2538 mm˛ (u.a. als VAG-Kit mit 322x32er Scheibe, geht unter 17")
4m6 - 36 / 44 = 2538 mm˛
6m1 - 28 / 32 / 38 = 2554 mm˛



3. aftermarket - mismatch:


Forge: 707 mm˛ + 1046 mm˛ + 1164 mm˛ = 2917 mm˛

Mov'it:

4s4: 40 / 44 = 2777 mm˛
4s5: 38 / 46 = 2796 mm˛
6m3: 30 / 34 / 38 = 2749 mm˛


Brembo 8-pot RS4/R8/Gallardo: 28 + 28 + 32 + 32 mm > 2840 mm˛

Brembo 8-pot RS6 : 4192 mm˛ (!!!)

996 Turbo: 40 + 44 mm > 1257 mm˛ + 1520 mm˛ = 2777 mm˛

Q7/Touareg/Cayenne (there are 3):

34/36/38 mm : 907.920 + 1017.876 + 1134.115 = ~ 3060 mm˛
32/36/38 mm : 804.248 + 1017.876 + 1134.115 = ~ 2956 mm˛
30/34/38 mm : 706.858 + 907.920 + 1134.115 = ~ 2749 mm˛



4. master cylinder:


- 22,22 mm > 388 mm˛ (some Golf V, some Scirocco etc.)

- 23,81 mm > 445 mm˛ (Golf V R32, Golf V GTI, Golf VI GTI, Golf R, Scirocco 2.0T + R)

- 25,40 mm > 507 mm˛ (RS3 + TT-RS)



5. rear:


GTI/RS: C38 > 1134 mm˛

S3/R32/R: C41 > 1320 mm˛

Movit 4m1: 28 / 30 = 1323 mm˛

Movit 4m2: 28 / 30 = 1323 mm˛



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Old 05-22-2013, 04:45 PM   #48
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WISH that I could post here already.
Maybe soon. Sooo... reserved! ha ha
You can post pics of your Brembo BBS setup now!
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:56 PM   #49
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[Question] : Brembo 18Z BBK

Would like to know if anyone has had experience with this bbk?

I am currently on BBS CS 18x8 ET40 and would like to know if this rim would clear the 18z bbk without spacers.

Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:27 AM   #50
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the bruce - so you're saying the 17z Cayenne/Touareg/Q7 calipers are not a match for the MK6?
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:13 PM   #51
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anyone know if the neuspeed RSE12's will clear porsche boxster brakes? i know they clear the stoptechs but i cannot for the life of me find anyone running neuspeed rse12's with porsche boxster brakes
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:59 PM   #52
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the bruce - so you're saying the 17z Cayenne/Touareg/Q7 calipers are not a match for the MK6?
the 17z's do work well, they get the job done. they are not engineered for our cars like brembo or stoptech. if you get into the science behind the brake booster and master cylinder then you will find the 17z,18z are overkill. i have the 18z's which offer massive braking power but i always wish i had a better matched bbk for my car. the cayenne bbk can be done for $1k or less and offers lots of bling. the 17z is definitely a better match for our cars than the 18z.
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Old 06-25-2013, 02:51 PM   #53
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the 17z's do work well, they get the job done. they are not engineered for our cars like brembo or stoptech. if you get into the science behind the brake booster and master cylinder then you will find the 17z,18z are overkill. i have the 18z's which offer massive braking power but i always wish i had a better matched bbk for my car. the cayenne bbk can be done for $1k or less and offers lots of bling. the 17z is definitely a better match for our cars than the 18z.
Understood, absolutely. I get the theory behind the above calculations, but was wondering how the "mismatch" of the 17z calipers manifested. Pedal slop/mush?

I like the Stoptech kit, but I'm not super keen about spending $2K on brakes for a street car. I was hoping the 17z upgrade would be a nice budget option.

BTW, those Cayenne brakes on your car make my pants tight....
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:26 PM   #54
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U20T has a question about fitment. he just pm's me but im not sure what the answer is so im posting this question here...i think he has plans for cayenne 17z's.

quote...U-20T....
"is there any chance you know what size spacers are need for factory wheels? I want to order 12.5mm from what I measured but I am afraid I still won't clear and would rather not guess."



12.5mm works with the OEM Detroits and 17z's. Will need and ET35 wheel otherwise
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Understood, absolutely. I get the theory behind the above calculations, but was wondering how the "mismatch" of the 17z calipers manifested. Pedal slop/mush?
I like my 17z's yes slightly front biased but not dangerous by any means, I am told the 18z is alot worse. They work great for me with the cars power.

I am going to do touareg rears very soon just missing rotors and lines at the moment. Then its going to stop like an animal.
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