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Old 09-05-2012, 05:42 PM   #52
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UPDATE: Torx plug is PN N91 167 901, crush washer is a standard VW/Audi aluminum round washer. Pictures comming, they are on my phone and need to upload them first.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:52 PM   #53
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UPDATE: Torx plug is PN N91 167 901, crush washer is a standard VW/Audi aluminum round washer. Pictures comming, they are on my phone and need to upload them first.
only $1.71 at my online dealer. but shippings prob $10. maybe a local dealer has it..
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:04 PM   #54
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Aforementioned pictures;



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Old 09-05-2012, 08:13 PM   #55
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i dunno.. my hex plug seems fine. can't see how its much different from the torx one. i guess i'll find out next time i change the oil and check for dribble.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:05 AM   #56
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only $1.71 at my online dealer.
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Old 09-06-2012, 11:57 AM   #57
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only $1.71 at my online dealer.
... but how much is shipping? I'll probably run to the local dealer and just pick one up.

Any idea how reusable the torx plugs are? Plug lasts X oil changes and just replace the washer type deal?
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:36 PM   #58
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Yeah, don't know why they changed the drive type, but techline tells us its a different type of metal than the older hex-head ones to prevent galling of the threads, and its not painted.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:32 PM   #59
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Yeah, don't know why they changed the drive type, but techline tells us its a different type of metal than the older hex-head ones to prevent galling of the threads, and its not painted.
Just got off the phone with my local dealer to check on stock of the torx plug. Got that in stock but the tech said that per the computer, the plug just installs on its own without any type of washer on a 2012 GTI.

Did your tech see something different on his computer that would show the need for the washer? If so, can you give me the part # for that too?

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Old 09-08-2012, 03:12 PM   #60
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The plug seals with a washer. Don't know the part number off hand, but its a round crush washer, but the washer itself is round in circumference, rather than flat. Audi dealers have them for all 3.2/4.2/3.0T motors.

You need to use a washer with it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:05 PM   #61
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I changed the oil today, had to re-use the hex plug back on. I was thinking the washer on the original 19mm that i took from past oil change would come off but would not make it past the threads.

I put a copper washer on the hex plug and torqued it down. Filled it up with oil. Drove about 50 miles checked it three times no leaks yet. knock on wood.

I just ordered the 19mm original drain bolt and Magnetic plug from ECS which will install soon to be on the safe side. hex plug has about half threads of original 19mm. seems like i was able to get a good crush on the copper so its not leaking.
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:59 AM   #62
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hex plug has about half threads of original 19mm. seems like i was able to get a good crush on the copper so its not leaking.
the hex plug is the proper size. the long 19mm bolt is way too long. its not supposed to go in half an inch past the threads..
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the hex plug is the proper size. the long 19mm bolt is way too long. its not supposed to go in half an inch past the threads..
Cool thanks.. Will keep it in mind
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:58 AM   #64
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VW/Audi have actually issued a new updated drain plug (using a 10mm alum crush washer) to replace both the 18mm plugs and the 6mm hex plugs. Techs have been having issues with removing the 18mm plugs, and having the brand new 19mm plugs leaking after being torqued to spec. Newer pans designed for the 6mm hex were built with the 18mm bolt installed and the washer +paint sealed the oil. As soon as the bolt was unscrewed, the seal with lost and it would leak oil.

Basically if you crack the drain bolt loose and it leaks oil immediately, replace with the updated T45 torx bolt + crush washer. Most VW/Audi dealers stock it and know what it is. I'll try and post a picture and a PN tomorrow.
i recently did an oil change... removed the original black 18mm hex head bolt, and replaced it with the 19mm hex head bolt from VW. when i removed the 18mm bolt, as soon as it was cracked loose, oil started coming out. now this 19mm hex head (with the washer attached) as a small dribble coming from it. has it been confirmed that this 6mm hex key plug or the T45 plug with the round washers are sealing this type of leak?? anyone else experience this, and have another suggestion for fixing it??
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:08 PM   #65
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Check out my posts on the matter. The original 18mm hex plugs will seal when brand new due to the thick e-coating from the supplier. Once cracked loose the new style pans require the hex/torx plug with the round aluminum crush washer to seal it. The 19mm hex will leak since the washer does not seal on the head of the bolt and oil gets past the threads.
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:26 PM   #66
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Sorry for the bump.
GTIProject, did you ever get the P/N for the crush washer?
Also, does the torque change? (I have it written down as 22 ft lb / 30 Nm)
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:02 PM   #67
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Just a quick question:

I went to pick up a new crush washer for my original 18mm (standard socket) drain plug at the dealer and they only had the new 19mm (standard socket) plug with aluminum washer already installed (that doesn't come off).

Am I going to have any leaks?
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:55 PM   #68
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Went to the dealership a few days ago to get my 30,000 mile oil change and check-up. Apparently they sucked the oil out of my car because the parts list did not show a new drain plug or washer. I'm glad I'll do all of my oil changes after this - I don't like the idea of dirty oil being sucked out rather than draining out.
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