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Old 04-10-2012, 08:00 PM   #15
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they have better gasoline, and different emissions systems
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:01 PM   #16
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The MPG ratings in the US follow strict guidelines that are set by governmental agencies. The guidelines vary from country to country so the numbers are going to be different in different countries. What is "extra-urban" measuring anyway? The numbers are probably just being spun differently.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:05 PM   #17
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Hey, here's a tip: If you don't know the answer, instead of just spouting bull to feel good about yourself, don't.



Maybe you should do some research about European testing cycles and how VW engineers what is more or less a 'world car'.

In other words, here's a tip for you: Do your research before thinking you know something that doesn't exist. Do you really think the cars VW builds for the European market have 2.5% more HP and get 25% better gas mileage than the rest of the world?

I appreciate your input on the subject, but you're simply out of your league here.

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Old 04-10-2012, 08:11 PM   #18
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You wouldn't want a UK-spec GTI if you had to pay UK gas prices ;-)
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:17 PM   #19
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its been said, imperial measurement, and did testing standards. epa is 50mph highway right?
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:22 PM   #20
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UK don't test with EPA standard....if you look at the Canadian rating its different from US also....

There are no world standard for each country's fuel economy testing, at least not for consumer purpose...
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:22 PM   #21
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its been said, imperial measurement, and did testing standards. epa is 50mph highway right?
For the last fucking time, 'imperial measurement' doesn't matter once you CONVERT the numbers.

If EPA testing is at 50 mph, what is UK and DE testing at? 35 mph highway? Downhill? In a vacuum?
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:24 PM   #22
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they have better gasoline, and different emissions systems
Better gasoline? How so?

I can understand emissions making some difference, but 33%? That's ridiculous.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:25 PM   #23
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Relax. Do the research. Understand.

'For the last fucking time', as you choose to say.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:30 PM   #24
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I'm asking why the rated numbers in Europe are higher than in America. Either the testing methodology in the UK and Germany is fatally flawed and no one ever sees numbers like that, or the difference in tuning is responsible, or there's some other difference.

What I get is 'buy a prius' and 'hurrrrr, I don't know how to convert UK MPG to US MPG so ur dumb.'
Somewhere in your statement is the answer.

You didn't give enough information in the initial statement.

US EPA vs UK ECE-15 are two different test cycles and further in the UK fuel economy is show as distance travelled per unit of measurement vs unit of measurement spent to travel a mile in the USA. Sounds like nitpicking but it makes a different in the numbers.

Using my last car for for example: Honda CR-Z. Virtually the same in both countries.
UK: 6.1/4.4 l/100 km
US: 7.6/6.4 l/100 km

Same car. Different test cycles.

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Old 04-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #25
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This is pointless. If you wanted a more economical golf you should have gotten a TDI.

At least I didn't say Prius, and I didn't curse. Both are vulgarities.

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Old 04-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #26
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Maybe you should do some research about European testing cycles and how VW engineers what is more or less a 'world car'.

In other words, here's a tip for you: Do your research before thinking you know something that doesn't exist. Do you really think the cars VW builds for the European market have 2.5% more HP and get 25% better gas mileage than the rest of the world?

I appreciate your input on the subject, but you're simply out of your league here.

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Well, I know the UK cars are spec'd at 207 HP, vs 200 HP here.

Do you have any links to these standards, or are you just a blowhard?
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:34 PM   #27
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Somewhere in your statement is the answer.

You didn't give enough information in the initial statement.

US EPA vs UK ECE-15 are two different test cycles with the US EPA testing using higher speed highway travelling, quicker pace acceleration, and more stop/go driving, etc.

Using my last for for example: Honda CR-Z. Virtually the same in both countries.
UK: 6.1/4.4 l/100 km
US: 7.6/6.4 l/100 km

Same car. Different test cycles.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:37 PM   #28
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This is pointless. If you wanted a more economical golf you should have gotten a TDI.

At least I didn't say Prius, and I didn't curse. Both are vulgarities.

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