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Old 10-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #1
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DSG vs. Manual

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I'm pretty new here, and I am going to be purchasing my new Volkswagen GTI MK6 very soon. Something that has been bothering me is deciding between the DSG transmission (I love the paddles) or the manual. There is a 2010 Autobahn I found for only $20,500 and only 30,000 miles and it is a DSG. Would you recommend DSG transmission over manual, or should I wait to find a manual?

Thank you so much
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:15 PM   #2
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Depends, if you do a lot of commuting in rush hour I'd say the DSG would be beneficial.

Otherwise get the manual. In a performance car like the GTi a manual is a must. Plus you also need to factor in the maintenance costs of the DSG in 10k miles since DSG fluid service is at 40k.

Honestly, coming from a DSG owner, I'd wait until you find a clean manual example.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:16 PM   #3
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The only bad thing about getting a DSG is that it will spoil all non-DSG cars for you, and you'll never want to go back
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:21 PM   #4
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Agree with above statement I've had a passat dsg and it was fun....but I like my manual better even in rush hour traffic it doesn't bother me to much maybe bc I'm used to it. IMO dsg is actually better performance wise until k04, example my friend has a Vw cc apr stage3+ dsg and I'm k04 manual and I can keep up with him pretty good bc he hasn't flashed and rebuilt his dsg to make it capable of holding that power. Shop told him to completely redo tranny to make it worth it was about $8,000. For me it's &2,000 you get the picture???
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:24 PM   #5
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DSG is quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile.
Rated better in fuel efficiency as well.

If you love to shift though, get a manual.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:35 PM   #6
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I've personally aways had a manual, but just recently purchased a Golf with a DSG transmission and absolutely love it. Remember a DSG transmission is not really an full automatic it's a hybrid cross between a the manual and automatic. It has dual shaft and dual clutch inside. I believe gears 1,3 and reverse are on shaft one and gears 2, 4 and 6 are on shaft two. To get more information I've included a link below.

http://http://www.myturbodiesel.com/...aq-VW-Audi.htm
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:48 PM   #7
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The only bad thing about getting a DSG is that it will spoil all non-DSG cars for you, and you'll never want to go back
Categorically false. I despised my DSG. PDK sucks as well and after driving an M3 with M-DCT I ordered mine with a manual and loved every second of it. Blasting though the Italian Alps or on the autobahn rowing your own gears is far more satisfying a driving experience. To be fair, I had my GTI in Germany and make these same drives with both transmission types and unless a manual is not offered on any car in the US, I'll never go back to a double clutch. Saying you'll never go back is flat our false. Double clutch transmissions are not all they're cracked up to be, have terrible low speed driving characteristics, are expensive as all hell to repair when they fail, and with the current state of regular automatics there isn't much, if any performance benefit anymore either.
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:49 PM   #8
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Hmm....another DSG vs. Manual debate
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Old 10-28-2012, 01:52 PM   #9
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Hmm....another DSG vs. Manual debate
i was gonna say the same oh noes but since he's a newbie..oh well. and i won't be the douche to say use search haha
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:12 PM   #10
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Hmm....another DSG vs. Manual debate
Well, I had seen a few others on here already, but I figured I could include other stuff about why I am deciding now rather than just choosing between the two transmissions .

I'm a freshman in college, so I will have the car for a good while! I am not worried about being older and not wanting to have to shift. To be honest, I have never owned a manual car. I've driven 2 of them, and it felt as though I may get annoyed with constantly having to shift. Also, DSG just seemed really cool

On the other hand, I am more than likely going to modify the car a little in the future (Blow off valve, cold air intake, exhaust) and I didn't know if the DSG type transmission would be effective with these kinds of modifications.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:16 PM   #11
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To DSG, or not to DSG

Do what I did. Find a helpful dealer and try both extensively. I went about six times for test drives, with 2 and 4 door and DSG and Manual. Then form your own position. As you can see from the answers this has been a active debate for some time and there seems to be two diametrically opposed points of view. With the DSG being such a good automatic, it really boils down to personal preference.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:16 PM   #12
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Having driven manual only cars as daily drivers for over 22 years, I purchased a '12 GTI Autobahn DSG in July of this year. I wanted a manual but was never a fan of the "loose" (my opinion) feel of VW and Audi manuals (this opinion formed from having owned a 2000 A4 Avant 1.8T 5spd Manual and a 2005 TT 225hp 6spd Manual).

I bought the GTI with the DSG and I find it more appealing and involving to drive than my 6spd manual in the BMW. It's really an amazing transmission if you get into it and use it for all its worth. I would recommend the DSG to anyone. However, it helps to get the most from it if you're an experienced manual trans driver.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:20 PM   #13
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Having it to do all over again, i prob would have gotten dsg even though i love driving a standard. It is a one trick pony and theres only one way to drive it. It feels silly sometimes, always with the left foot right hand routine day in and day out, day after day after day having no other options. Theres a reason its cheaper. Im stuck with the car a long time but the next car will lack the third pedal. Ive done my time
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