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Old 02-12-2013, 02:48 PM   #15
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Not sure if anyone else caught this little tidbit, but... plastic lower oilpan.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:04 PM   #16
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Can't answer why they aren't doing it... Maybe cost? I'd suppose adding all of those extra injectors for FI and another fuel system to operate at a lower pressure than 200 bar might cost some money. They are trying to make the new cars cheaper.

I'm also disappointing in not seeing valvetronic show up as well on the GLI
Ours is able to hit a max of 200 bar now
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #17
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Well I guess it's a Stage2 Mk6 GTI for me.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:13 PM   #18
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I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. The EA888 engine is the engine that is currently in Golf R in generation 2. This would be another revised engine of that motor which i understand but I thought the new motor going into the Mk7 GTI was a Gen 2 of the current Mk6 engine?

With this article it sounds like the EA888 is coming in the form of a refresh for the GLI. If that is correct, I would assume that the GTI would also come with that motor with the same output. I guess there is more questions then answers at this point but what was the point of developing the motor that is currently in the GTI if they kill it off after 6 years?
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:29 PM   #19
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Golf R has EA113. Which was the engine MK5 GTI comes with, but with K04 instead of K03, among other things. I don't actually know why the new EA888 is a gen 3 though? Is the MK6 GTI 2.0T Gen 1 or Gen 2?
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:34 PM   #20
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Any mention of a more capable turbo. Something between the K03 and k04. This would help when getting you car flashed to produce more power.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:38 PM   #21
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I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind this. The EA888 engine is the engine that is currently in Golf R in generation 2. This would be another revised engine of that motor which i understand but I thought the new motor going into the Mk7 GTI was a Gen 2 of the current Mk6 engine?

With this article it sounds like the EA888 is coming in the form of a refresh for the GLI. If that is correct, I would assume that the GTI would also come with that motor with the same output. I guess there is more questions then answers at this point but what was the point of developing the motor that is currently in the GTI if they kill it off after 6 years?
The EA113 is the Golf R and Mk5 engine. The EA888 is the TSI engine. So it is a revision of the current MK6 engine.

http://www.golf********.co.uk/index.php?topic=131433.0
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:54 PM   #22
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The EA113 is the Golf R and Mk5 engine. The EA888 is the TSI engine. So it is a revision of the current MK6 engine.

http://www.golf********.co.uk/index.php?topic=131433.0
Ah... That makes a lot more sense then. Thank you very much!

Now the question is will the new GTI have the same tune as the GLI and get 210hp or will they bump it up? Maybe offer a performance package for 230hp but the base comes with 210hp.

That or they could do a refresh of the GLI in the spring of 2014 when the GTI comes out and up the power in both of them?

I guess only time will tell.
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The annoying thing is if they are not going to bring all the new feature to the North American MK7, which from the powerpoint it looks like the lack of MPI, new cooling management and Valvelift might be a market specific change, does that mean those feature will be on the EU spec car? And also this signals the possibility that if they are removing those items on the cars here, we might not get the new E-LSD and other things that the EU cars might get. Especially considering that something like the cooling managment and MPI will not only make the engine more powerful, they also improves emission and fuel economy...if those are consider unnecessary, E-LSD is something even less important for the car...
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Originally they were stating that two power versions of the mkvii gti would be available. They were something like 210 and 230 hp versions but the 230 hp version came with some extra goodies like an electrically controlled mechanical LSD.
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Golf R has EA113. Which was the engine MK5 GTI comes with, but with K04 instead of K03, among other things. I don't actually know why the new EA888 is a gen 3 though? Is the MK6 GTI 2.0T Gen 1 or Gen 2?
i think ours is Gen 2, they have a EA888 1.8T one before the 2.0T
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The gen 3 is definitely less of a performance version than the gen 2. VW definitely isn't concerned with the aftermarket on these and is moving more toward green.
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The gen 3 is definitely less of a performance version than the gen 2. VW definitely isn't concerned with the aftermarket on these and is moving more toward green.
Should start to think of another name for the car than gti then
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:37 PM   #28
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The gen 3 is definitely less of a performance version than the gen 2. VW definitely isn't concerned with the aftermarket on these and is moving more toward green.
What makes you say that? The full beef Gen 3 is no less "performance oriented" than anything gen 2...its just it looks like the NA market specific version won't be the full beef version....
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