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Old 10-22-2014, 11:42 AM   #43
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Old 10-22-2014, 11:52 AM   #44
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I just spent time cleaning up your data with formatting and to highlight the data at 100% throttle position (WOT pull) and I'm emailing it back to you now. The 98 tune looks good with a max of 1.5 CF but the 102 RON needs more flow as you hit a max of -2.25 through -3.75. Not a bad start though by any means. We can increase flow through the controller and through pump pressure if needed.

First, I would drain your tank of 100% meth to fill it with a fully accurate 75/25 mixture by volume.

Can you post a photo of your controller settings so I can see what you are able to adjust?
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Ok... Here is a pic of my controler




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Old 10-22-2014, 12:10 PM   #46
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Hyde thank you very much for your time on this.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:12 PM   #47
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Turn start to 5psi for now as you should only be concerned with CF at 3,000 rpm or over due to engine load in 4th gear.

Is your only other adjustment the full setting? I would set full or MAX spray at 20psi or around 4,000rpm. Re-log with a 75/25 mix by volume.
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Perfect will do so.

I think I can also increase the pressure of the pump, I will double check at the shop. Already switching the tank since the 1 gallon tank was almost empty after 6 or 7 logs...
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Old 11-11-2014, 10:37 AM   #49
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Hyde we made it man. Replaced all broken hoses, cleaned up the w/m system and obtained 0 timing pull on the 102 ron file . 5 psi start and 20 psi full. Thank you. The Scirocco runs great.




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Old 11-11-2014, 10:39 AM   #50
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PERFECT! Do me a favor and run a pull now with MAF values with engine speed and throttle position.
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PERFECT! Do me a favor and run a pull now with MAF values with engine speed and throttle position.
I will send you an email with the complete log.
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I will send you an email with the complete log.
Past 4,700 RPM you're hitting higher MAF values that K04 users in the US are seeing. We max out around 258-260 g/s. Here are your values with water methanol which should technically lower MAF values as you are displacing some air with fluid. Forgive me but the Scirocco comes with an OEM K04 turbo correct? What else could lead to higher MAF values? BTW I'm taking your Mass Air Flow values in kg/h and converting to g/s by dividing the kg/h values by 3.6.

Engine Speed Mass Air Flow (g/s)
2,431 14.06
2,504 63.42
2,636 93.25
2,815 133.67
3,023 142.36
3,262 154.42
3,483 165.00
3,721 171.53
3,931 187.56
4,156 237.50
4,447 250.11
4,700 256.22
4,929 261.03
5,151 264.19
5,330 268.17
5,527 272.56
5,736 275.78
5,884 275.11
6,063 277.56
6,193 276.83
6,353 279.19
6,488 281.97
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Past 4,700 RPM you're hitting higher MAF values that K04 users in the US are seeing. We max out around 258-260 g/s. Here are your values with water methanol which should technically lower MAF values as you are displacing some air with fluid. Forgive me but the Scirocco comes with an OEM K04 turbo correct? What else could lead to higher MAF values? BTW I'm taking your Mass Air Flow values in kg/h and converting to g/s by dividing the kg/h values by 3.6.

Engine Speed Mass Air Flow (g/s)
2,431 14.06
2,504 63.42
2,636 93.25
2,815 133.67
3,023 142.36
3,262 154.42
3,483 165.00
3,721 171.53
3,931 187.56
4,156 237.50
4,447 250.11
4,700 256.22
4,929 261.03
5,151 264.19
5,330 268.17
5,527 272.56
5,736 275.78
5,884 275.11
6,063 277.56
6,193 276.83
6,353 279.19
6,488 281.97
My Scirocco has the 2.0 TSI engine wich is exactly the same as the Mk6 GTI, even same ECU. K04 FSI engine is the Scirocco R same as Golf R.

Regarding Maf values your method to convert to g/s is correct and it's funny that you ask because my previous intake was the new ECS Tunning one and I hardly obtained 255 g/s. After switching to Carbonio stage 1 & 2 (my dealer insisted...) I obtained this new Maf values - NO other changes !

EDIT: after Carbonio install, the sound of the car changed, everything is louder even the exhaust sound under WOT :-)
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:40 PM   #54
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I will start adjusting my w/m kit for the 100 program (104RON)

I have only one jet before TB and will try to reach 0 timing pull. For this I am replacing my current jet (ok for 102 ron) for one with twice the flow.

Starting point:
- 80/20 mix
- initial spray 4 psi - full 20 psi

Suggestions are welcomed.

PD: Hyde, you still find strange my MAF values from my previous log sessions?
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Rather than start a new thread about my horrible timing issue, I'm going to post here. HYDE, if you could please help me trouble shoot what the hell is going on with my car. Car has 48,0xx miles I have a CTS K04, GFB+ DV, Eurodyne k04 basefile, 42 Draft Designs intake factory "stage II" section of the intake, neuspeed FMIC and TOP. R8 coils, and NGK (4853) PFR7B Laser Platinum Spark Plugs. I keep getting excessive timing pull, like -9. Wondering if you can look at my eurodyne logs and see if you have any ideas what to do next.

Eurodyne logs can be read with excel.
I believe this is a 3rd gear pull
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tp9bufqney...taLog.csv?dl=0

and this should be the 4th gear pull
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dlbhybhp7f...taLog.csv?dl=0


One thing to mention, I keep getting misfires ONLY at the top of 4th gear. I was, depending how you look at it, fortunate enough to be logging while a group of misfires occurred. However when I got home to scan with VDCS the ECM shows no record of a misfire(s).
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:14 AM   #56
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I've been trying to help him for the last two weeks, but his timing pull is just nuts.

When I was on the Eurodyne base file WITHOUT an intercooler, I wouldn't even get timing pull....

Keep in mind, his logs were done on a lower temperature night too. Intake temps are fine.

Just noticing your injector pulse right now. I'm seeing 7.4 ms pulse time, seems kind of high for the power you're making... and over 8ms for a quick second (could be the reason of the misfires).

Oh, I can see the misfires for sure. You went from .87 lambda to .71. That's 12.8 to 10.4 within a couple hundred RPM. You out of nowhere dumped fuel. Odd.

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