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Old 08-12-2010, 07:22 AM   #1
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Shoot-Out: VW Golf R vs SEAT Leon Cupra R

Fifth Gear a UK motoring program.

I've copied this link from another VW forum. Its quite interesting to watch and listen.

http://fwd.five.tv/fifth-gear/videos...t-leon-cupra-r

One French user says they aren't allowed to view their video in France. Where as does that apply?
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Old 08-12-2010, 07:44 AM   #2
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Probably viewable only from England or the UK. Here is another link.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...d=424590052001
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:23 AM   #3
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I also can't view it, something about my country...
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:31 AM   #4
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thanks for the link bubuski
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:36 AM   #5
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2nd link works, thanks

hell i would take the Seat Cupra myself. $5k is a lot and I prefer the look.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:04 AM   #6
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I've driven the Cupra R some 4-5 times; it's an amazing car ....great compromize if you don't have the cash for the R since both cars got the same engine (although slightly different versions).

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- Performance is pretty good (on straight 500m runs we beat manual 350Zs by 1-2 cars)
- Some nice touches inside, full bucket seats, speedo and Odo needles
- Best value for money on the market (it actually destroys MK6 GTI and sells for the same price)
- Feels very special and limited edition

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- Built and quality, road insulation etc... is a bit lower than VW and Lots of cheap hard plastics inside
- FWD (loooots of wheelspin, and with 261bhp/350Nm on front wheels XDS is a joke and does not improve understeer at all)
- Some crucial stuff not even available as an option (DSG, ACC, 18'' instead of the 19'')
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:47 AM   #7
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Probably viewable only from England or the UK. Here is another link.
I wondered about that?

Thanks for the link bubuski. They both work for me.
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2nd link works, thanks

hell i would take the Seat Cupra myself. $5k is a lot and I prefer the look.
not $5k but 5k UK Pounds.... in USD it would be $7,000 dollars cheaper. Thatsa hellsa lot...
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Volkswagen need to get the power to the rear wheels faster in their all wheel drive cars. That is one of the problems I have with dishing out the extra money for a R it is essentially front wheel drive until the computer gives the back wheels some power. 4motion is great but needs to be rear biased in a sports car.
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4motion is great but needs to be rear biased in a sports car.
Completely agreed, its commonsense, but this proves that commonsense is not all that common.
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Completely agreed, its commonsense, but this proves that commonsense is not all that common.
I'm pretty sure Common and Sense are two words and that seems to be very common.
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nice video, sometimes Fifth Gear can be watchable (top gear is too Super car biased). I'd still take the R over the Cupra R. Although Leon's are not that bad at all; just their interiors are a little bland and quality still is a tad sub-par as noted above.
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Well a friend at work has a 2005 Leon 1.9 TDI (150PS). When I had mine we were talking about features. Has it got cruise control, parking wing mirrors? No you have to buy them as an option. Well they are a standard feature on a Leon.

His fuel con is far better than mine 62mpg and he doesn't hang around. Mine is 43mpg.
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I'm pretty sure Common and Sense are two words and that seems to be very common.
Watch out for this guy.
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