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Old 01-21-2016, 12:14 AM   #1
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Project "Gruppe R" Golf R Recce Car



Hey everybody long time reader here, figured I'd chime in with my project car. Coming from a desert racing background racing aircooled VWs in Baja (http://gonzoracing.net) I decided to take a path less traveled with my Golf R.

No one out there other than VW Motorsport uses the Golf R as a WRC Recce car (pre-runner for rally) and I haven't found anyone else do a similar build so here goes!

I know this will not be everyone's cup of tea but who cares. My build will be documented in a series of articles on the road racing magazine Turnology but I will post updates here too. I made every effort to contact admins and moderators to ask if posting the article links is ok but never got a response. I hope it's no problem.

Here is the first article introducing the plans and concept:

http://www.turnology.com/features/pr...-recce-golf-r/

In short I plan to build a daily driver that can handle rough tarmac, track days, and light gravel. Mods will include suspension, brakes, wheels, tires, aerodynamic bodywork, engine, electronics etc. but geared toward rally rather than grip or "tuner" aesthetics.

Looking forward to sharing the progress!

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Old 01-21-2016, 12:24 AM   #2
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Actually the WRC car that VW use is a modified VW polo. The GTI are used in the Castrol cup and 24hr le mans, and the Beetle in rally here in the state(X games?)
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Old 01-21-2016, 12:40 AM   #3
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The WRC race car is a Polo but VW Motorsports uses Golf Rs to Recce. Check it out: https://www.rallytheworld.com/en/recce-the-world
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Old 01-21-2016, 12:47 AM   #4
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The WRC race car is a Polo but VW Motorsports uses Golf Rs to Recce. Check it out: https://www.rallytheworld.com/en/recce-the-world
ahhh I see. learned sth again

they looks like to be stock with tiguan suspension?
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Old 01-21-2016, 03:11 AM   #5
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I don't frequent the forum too much anymore. However this will be a reason for me to do so. Please keep us updated as best you can. And link all the articles. I love this idea.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:07 AM   #6
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This sounds like an awesome build. Definitely keep the updates coming!
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Old 01-21-2016, 01:43 PM   #7
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interesting project
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:27 PM   #8
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Wheels and tires are in hand, brakes and suspension are on the way, and the body work is at the painter. The articles should start flowing next month.

In the meantime we shot a little video to sum up the plans for the car and some baselines.

Here is a link:
http://www.turnology.com/news/video-...ject-gruppe-r/

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Old 02-17-2016, 04:09 PM   #9
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I have been waiting for someone to do this
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:01 PM   #10
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Just a few updates for Gruppe R, we had the car out for some driving baseline impressions both on tarmac and gravel. We did NASA's HPDE, and the California Rally Series (NASA Rallysport) driving schools. Both great experiences.

Here are a few pictures from the classes and the links to the articles.
CRS Rally School Article:
http://www.turnology.com/features/th...-of-ridgcrest/



NASA HPDE Article:
http://www.turnology.com/features/ro...nasa-hpde-1-2/





The car is wearing it's new brakes, I'll provide that info later this week when the article is live. The suspension for this car has been ordered and is being made, full gravel rally spec from Europe. Can't wait!
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Old 06-27-2016, 03:52 PM   #11
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This is relevant to my interests.... keep it up!
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:03 AM   #12
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So let's talk about the brakes. In looking for a performance brakes supplier that could offer improved stopping power in a small package we found PowerBrake.

These guys are based in South Africa and specialize in building brakes for Dakar rally cars, off-road cars, and also track cars.

We have always intended to run smaller diameter wheels than will fit over the front brakes to benefit from more sidewall, but solutions were hard to find.


We met the guys at PowerBrake at PRI in 2015 and started working on a custom package. The calipers are the air-cooled version of their 6-piston liquid cooled calipers used on Dakar vehicles.

The rotors are a neat proprietary design that doesn't rattle on the street but becomes a full floating rotor as soon as you apply braking pressure.

I've had the brakes on the track at the NASA HPDE event and they performed flawlessly, no fade or issues. As discussed in the article they do have a different feel than OEM, but that is by design.

We wanted a race-proven design that would put up with some gravel and impacts. Check out the article for more details:
http://www.turnology.com/tech-storie...-for-gruppe-r/
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:57 PM   #13
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Finally some real goodies arrived. Suspension makes a rally car and we were not going to skimp there. All the way from Europe we got our ProFlex gravel rally coilovers from the original supplier to VW Motorsports.

Look for the install article soon and as we get into tuning 3-way adjustable suspension.

Top is a front, bottom is a rear:
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:58 PM   #14
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Well this is certainly different. I dig it, keep the updates coming!
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