Torsional Rigidity Strength - Car List

[APRMK6GTi]

I'm not sure if this has been posted, I haven't found anything through the search. But here is a list of cars with their torsional rigidity strength #s. MK6 isn't listed but it is the same as the MK5.

Numerical order (Nm/deg)

Koenigsegg Agera R - 65000 Nm/deg
Bugatti Veyron - 60000 Nm/deg
Koenigsegg Agera - 58000 Nm/deg
Rolls Royce Phantom - 40500 Nm/deg
Audi R8 (2014 MY) - 40000 Nm/deg
Lexus LF-A - 39130 Nm/deg
BMW F10 5 - 37500 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Phaeton - 37000 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Aventador - 35000 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Gallardo Super Trofeo Stradale - 35000 Nm/deg
Ferrari F50 - 34600 Nm/deg
Fisker Karma - 33000 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 (997) - 33000 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Passat (2006) - 32400 Nm/deg
BMW Z4 Coupe - 32000 Nm/deg
Alfa 159 - 31400 Nm/deg
BMW F07 5GT - 31000 Nm/deg
Mazda Rx-8 - 30000 Nm/deg
Mercedes Benz W212 E - 29920 Nm/deg
Aston Martin Vanquish - 28500 Nm/deg
Koenigsegg CC8 - 28100 Nm/deg
Aston Martin Rapide - 28000 Nm/deg
BMW E70 X5 - 28000 Nm/deg
Land rover Freelander 2 - 28000 Nm/deg
Ford GT - 27100 Nm/deg
Aston Martin DB9 Coupe - 27000 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda F - 27000 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo 996 - 27000 Nm/deg
Lotus Evora - 26600 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda C12 S - 26300 Nm/deg
Porsche Carrera GT - 26000 Nm/deg
Audi A8 - 25000 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda C12 - 25000 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Golf V GTI - 25000 Nm/deg
Mini (2003) - 24500 Nm/deg
BMW E39 5 - 24000 Nm/deg
BMW E60 5 - 24000 Nm/deg
BMW E53 X5 (2004) - 23100 Nm/deg
BMW E30 M3 - 23000 Nm/deg
Lambo Gallardo - 23000 Nm/deg
BMW E90 - 22500 Nm/deg
Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport - 22000 Nm/deg
Jaguar X (Sedan) - 22000 Nm/deg
Mercedes Benz SL (top up) - 21000 Nm/deg
Saab 9-3 Sportcombi - 21000 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang 2005 - 21000 Nm/deg
Chrysler Crossfire - 20140 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Murcielago - 20000 Nm/deg
Volvo S60 - 20000 Nm/deg
Ford Focus 3d - 19600 Nm/deg
Audi TT Coupe - 19000 Nm/deg
Bugatti EB110 - 19000 Nm/deg
Volvo S80 - 18600 Nm/deg
Bentley Azure - 18000 Nm/deg
BMW E46 Sedan (w/o folding seats) - 18000 Nm/deg
Maserati QP - 18000 Nm/deg
Pagani Zonda Roadster - 18000 Nm/deg
Volkswagen Fox - 17941 Nm/deg
Ford Focus 5d - 17900 Nm/deg
Chevrolet Cruze - 17600 Nm/deg
Ford GT40 MkI - 17000 Nm/deg
Mercedes Benz SL (top down) - 17000 Nm/deg
Jaguar X (Estate) - 16319 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang 2003 - 16000 Nm/deg
Jaguar XK - 16000 Nm/deg
Aston Martin DB9 Convertible - 15500 Nm/deg
Mazda Rx-7 - 15000 Nm/deg
BMW Z4 Roadster - 14500 Nm/deg
Ferrari 360 - 14455 Nm/deg
BMW E46 Wagon (w/folding seats) - 14000 Nm/deg
McLaren F1 - 13500 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo (2000) - 13500 Nm/deg
BMW E46 Sedan (w/folding seats) - 13000 Nm/deg
Porsche 959 - 12900 Nm/deg
BMW E46 Coupe (w/folding seats) - 12500 Nm/deg
Opel Astra - 12000 Nm/deg
Audi A2 - 11900 Nm/deg
Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible - 11600 Nm/deg
Lotus Elise 111s - 11000 Nm/deg
BMW E36 Touring - 10900 Nm/deg
BMW E46 Convertible - 10500 Nm/deg
Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004) - 10500 Nm/deg
Ferrari 355 - 10042 Nm/deg
Lotus Elise - 10000 Nm/deg
Renault Sport Spider - 10000 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) - 9500 Nm/deg
Chevrolet Corvette C5 - 9100 Nm/deg
Lotus Elan GRP body - 8900 Nm/deg
Ferrari 360 Spider - 8500 Nm/deg
Lotus Elan - 7900 Nm/deg
Dodge Viper Coupe - 7600 Nm/deg
Chrysler Durango - 6800 Nm/deg
Lotus Esprit SE Turbo - 5850 Nm/deg
BMW E36 Z3 - 5600 Nm/deg
Mazda MX-5 (later w/ bracing) - 5150 Nm/deg
Mazda MX-5 (1990) - 4880 Nm/deg
Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) - 4800 Nm/deg
Lamborghini Countach - 2600 Nm/deg

 

[Gunkata]

dat Passat.

 

[SixSpeeder]

Interesting. That's one stiff little econo box.

 

[XGC75]

Wow, it really doesn't feel as stiff as an R8. Not at all.

Also, I'm really surprised to find the E36 so low. What gives? Can someone find a diagram of what this actually measures?

 

[APRMK6GTi]

Just a thought, maybe the stiff chassis helps with our minimal torque steer compared to like a Mazdaspeed 3. The torque from the engine doesn't really upset the chassis that badly. Our short wheel base might contribute to the stiffness as well just like the mini cooper

 

[XGC75]

Just a thought, maybe the stiff chassis helps with our minimal torque steer compared to like a Mazdaspeed 3. The torque from the engine doesn't really upset the chassis that badly. Our short wheel base might contribute to the stiffness as well just like the mini cooper

I definitely noticed an improvement in torque steer after installing the UB.

 

[APRMK6GTi]

I definitely noticed an improvement in torque steer after installing the UB.

Same here, but still surprise to see that e46 and e90 is softer even tho they feel stiffer and more substantial in stability

 

[excelevant]

Mazda MX-5 (1990) - 4880 Nm/deg

This gave me a lol, I have one of these. Chassis bracing goes a looooong way in these cars

 

[johnny_p]

Damn the Z4 coupe is pretty stiff.

It does look like a penis though so maybe there is a correlation?

 

[XGC75]

Damn the Z4 coupe is pretty stiff.

It does look like a penis though so maybe there is a correlation?

I haz Z4boner. Especially those new ones. Gawd what a sexy car. Wait, ... does that make me homo??

butchered by autocorrecr

 

[aw6141]

Wow, it really doesn't feel as stiff as an R8. Not at all.

Also, I'm really surprised to find the E36 so low. What gives? Can someone find a diagram of what this actually measures?

Don't E36 in general have subframe tearing issues?

 

[APRMK6GTi]

Wow, it really doesn't feel as stiff as an R8. Not at all.

Also, I'm really surprised to find the E36 so low. What gives? Can someone find a diagram of what this actually measures?

not really a diagram per se, but explains how it is done.

http://www.cadanda.com/CAD_PACE_1__67-75.pdf

 

[XGC75]

I guess that's pretty much what I pictured in my head, but damn. Yeah I didn't expect the GTI to be so high. Maybe it isn't the frame, but actually that the interior just isn't well bolted down :iono: :laugh:

 

[maxtdi]

Sweet since it is the same as the Zonda, we can assume handling is comparable right?

 

[BAM its mitch]

Sweet since it is the same as the Zonda, we can assume handling is comparable right?

Well...yeah with a few simple mods.

1. Remove suspension from Zonda and put under GTI.
2. Remove body and engine from Zonda and swap with GTI body/engine.

Result: A GTI that looks and handles like a Zonda

Not sure what you do with the Zonda that now looks and handles like a GTI though.