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08.5-11 ESP Defeat

vwgti2.0t

Go Kart Champion
I don't know how I missed this tread, but good shit! Here is my coding info, I have the BC module. I will try this today after work and post results.


2011 GTI 6MT
Manu Date: 8/10
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BC
Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0106
Software Coding: 114B600C49280001881206E9921A0041B70800
 

zrickety

The Fixer
I had googled 'MK60EC1 ESP OFF' to find the video, added link to original post. I was in shock when I saw it.
 

zrickety

The Fixer
Even translated, those forums are greek to me. It looks like the Polish get some information from Russian forums, that part is interesting.
 

nafljhy

Go Kart Champion
not sure if this is normal, after coding and disabling ESP and turn off the car. once i turn back on the car, ESP is active again. This normal? Clearly, I don't turn off ESP/TCS often.
 

aw6141

Go Kart Champion
If you hit the button, do you get the ESP deactivated instead of the old TCS deactivated message?
 

HYDE161

Go Kart Champion
I don't know how I missed this tread, but good shit! Here is my coding info, I have the BC module. I will try this today after work and post results.


2011 GTI 6MT
Manu Date: 8/10
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BC
Component and/or Version: ESP MK60EC1 H30 0106
Software Coding: 114B600C49280001881206E9921A0041B70800

I have the same one as you! What coding are you changing specifically?

Byte 16 in our string is B7 so what do we change it to?
Current string: 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041B70800
Proposed string? 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041__0800
 

vwgti2.0t

Go Kart Champion
I have the same one as you! What coding are you changing specifically?

Byte 16 in our string is B7 so what do we change it to?
Current string: 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041B70800
Proposed string? 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041__0800
I'm assuming we change that to 3D. I'll be home in an hour or so and will report back!
 

HYDE161

Go Kart Champion
*****2.0t and I are in the same grouping here as well.

Mine has B7 also in the coding, did you just try changing it to 3c in the new long coding instead of changing it through the long coding helper? I will have to check if I still have hill assist.

This is my abs module information from my previous post
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BG HW: 1K0 907 379 BG
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0106
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: 114B600C492400FA880B06ED92220041B70800
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 78D131C3CB505BD8195

And the coding changes if you want to put that in the sticky.
My old coding byte 16
114B600C492400FA880B06ED92220041B70800

New Coding I put in long coding:
114B600C492400FA880B06ED922200413C0800

EDIT: I messed with it again, and I am using 3D now which keeps hill assist and the abs based TPMS. I think 39 will keep hill assist, but disable TPMS. I was doing it in a hurry, but you can probably mess with the settings and verify. My battery is weakening so I will probably wait until next week until I get the new battery before I mess with it some more. (it's cheaper at the dealer than the autoparts store so I set up an appointment lol)

I have a 2011 TDI with ABS module 1K0907379BC and it did not work. Bit 16 was originally B7. B7 changes to B3 when I uncheck the TPMS, but it will not accept the changes unless TPMS is enabled.

Edit1:
B7 = 10110111 = Hill Hold & TPMS enabled
B3 = 10110011 = Hill Hold Enabled, TPMS disabled

3C = 00111100 = ?
3D = 00111101 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS enabled
39 = 00111001 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS disabled

I'll try 3D when I get home and post the VCDS scan.
 

nafljhy

Go Kart Champion
If you hit the button, do you get the ESP deactivated instead of the old TCS deactivated message?

that is correct. I had put that information in one of my edited posts. should've made a new post. sorry about that.

i think i should clarify. after driving the car with ESP disabled, i turn off the car and get out to do some errands. I get back in the car and turn the car on, ESP is active again. Is that what normally happens? I need to push the button again to disable.
 

nafljhy

Go Kart Champion
I have a 2011 TDI with ABS module 1K0907379BC and it did not work. Bit 16 was originally B7. B7 changes to B3 when I uncheck the TPMS, but it will not accept the changes unless TPMS is enabled.

Edit1:
B7 = 10110111 = Hill Hold & TPMS enabled
B3 = 10110011 = Hill Hold Enabled, TPMS disabled

3C = 00111100 = ?
3D = 00111101 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS enabled
39 = 00111001 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS disabled

I'll try 3D when I get home and post the VCDS scan.

For me, 3C worked with hillhold disabled and tpms enabled, but i have the BG pump.

oops! sorry for the double post!
 

HYDE161

Go Kart Champion
So for Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BC these are our options?

Current string: 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041B70800
Proposed string? 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041__0800

3C = 00111100 = Hill Hold disabled, TPMS enabled
3D = 00111101 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS enabled
39 = 00111001 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS disabled

I don't care about TPMS but I want Hill Hold so I think I would want 39 is that correct? would this affect TSC and XDS settings as well?
 

aw6141

Go Kart Champion
So for Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 379 BC these are our options?

Current string: 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041B70800
Proposed string? 114B800C492600FA881301E8921A0041__0800

3C = 00111100 = Hill Hold disabled, TPMS enabled
3D = 00111101 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS enabled
39 = 00111001 = Hill Hold enabled, TPMS disabled

I don't care about TPMS but I want Hill Hold so I think I would want 39 is that correct? would this affect TSC and XDS settings as well?
Yes, I believe 39 is Hill hold enabled, TPMS disabled when I quickly tried it on my car last night. What I did was put it back to B7 to see what was enabled in long coding and saw both hill hold and tpms enabled. Then put it to 3C, and played with the check mark boxes in long coding helper and saw the byte change from 3c to 3d and 39. Unfortunately outside of driving at an autox or with traction control on a wet road, I don't think I can tell if it really is off or if xds is still on. Im currently using 3D, since I like hill hold and the tpms being enabled doesnt have the annoying features of the earlier based systems on aftermarket wheels. Another option is playing with the xds strong and weak settings in addition to disabling the traction control and seeing what happens.

ESP and TSC is both disabled when the button is pressed to turn off traction control now. However I still need to figure out how to get two stage like ThatGTI has on his 2010. There might be another setting, but that will probably require playing around with the long coding and seeing what happens. It just seems really odd how ThatGTIs car has the two stage system, the 2011 doesnt on the same coding.

Ideally for me, the best solution would be the two stage traction control, as it allows enough slip and rotation. But I can probably get used to full off as Im fairly used to a rotatable fwd car.

Are there any overseas GTI and Golf R members on here? Im interested to see if they get the same results as us, especially the pre 2012 ROW Golf Rs that have the same issue as the 2009-2011 GTIs without being able to fully disable traction control.

that is correct. I had put that information in one of my edited posts. should've made a new post. sorry about that.

i think i should clarify. after driving the car with ESP disabled, i turn off the car and get out to do some errands. I get back in the car and turn the car on, ESP is active again. Is that what normally happens? I need to push the button again to disable.
oh ok, yeah that is normal, each time you turn off and turn on the car, traction control is enabled again and you have to manually turn it off each time. I think that is done by design.
 
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vwgti2.0t

Go Kart Champion
Well I just tried it. It accepts both 3C and 3D, but the screen shows nothing different than it did before. If I hold the button it does nothing except activate everything again after say 10 seconds or so. So I'm not sure whether it actually changed anything or not. So confused.
 

HYDE161

Go Kart Champion
Well I just tried it. It accepts both 3C and 3D, but the screen shows nothing different than it did before. If I hold the button it does nothing except activate everything again after say 10 seconds or so. So I'm not sure whether it actually changed anything or not. So confused.

I just tried this for our same exact module, I changed it to 39 and it is OFF. I have to verify Hill Hold/TSC/XDS but I just drifted around like Ken Block through my work parking lot. Also, the MFD nows says ESP off or TCS/ESP Activated.
 
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