Sorry this is long. Wife wants this car I dont unless it can go back to no faults or even OEM ... Anyways .... I was looking at a 2013 GTI. I saw this car for sale and given the price and mileage we thought we would check it out. Always too good to be true...
The wifey went there on Thursday, it was late and it was getting dark and she said the car looked great but it had an accident at 10K miles in 2014. No problem... has 60K now
She liked the car and wants me to check it... The repair was fine at 10K body work was like a 4.5 outta 5.
Now I get there yesterday and I start the Car.... Here is what I notice...
1) The Fans keep revving up and down so they rev up for around 5 seconds and then back down to off. Started soon as I started car and stayed that way.
2) I can hear the exhaust sounds different... after a few mins I can even smell it. The exhaust tips are black (dual tips) like it was rolling coal but is not a diesel.
3) Check engine light comes on after 5 mins! It was not on the night before either.
So I hookup a scanner I pull 5 Engine codes and no others of note.
P0420 - Catalyst System,Bank1 Efficiency Below Threshold
P1945 - Coolant Fan Control (FC) Module 1: Fan Activation Short Circuit
P1950 - Coolant Fan for Coolant : difficulty of movement / blocked
P2095 - Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System (Bank 1) Too Lean
P2196 - O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
I can not get under the car at this lot. Im 50 and flabby! LOL What I do notice is a drip from the drain plug (no big deal). Engine cover is missing. I think he had a Cold Air Intake the car is very clean so can't understand why that would be gone for no reason. Someone pressure washed the engine I can tell, and if I look down on the Front Right (passenger) headlight and down to the bottom cover under the pulleys, I can see a lot of old crud/oil buildup on the skid plate cover. Basically its at the passenger side of engine and straight down. So I mention to this salesman... everything I see and when I tell him about the codes he goes yeah they are all Emission codes. So the dude is aware of it but never told the wife or me... Cmon like that many codes won't come back? Like it needs to Pass Emissions in NJ..WTF?
I think , heck I know! He must of cleared the engine codes because the CEL was Off originally and was playing stupid.
He now says he just got the car in a week ago and didn't bring to the mechanic yet. Car was only on lot for a week cause I pass it all the time, he told 1 truth. So I said to him okay then bring it to your mechanic and when you are there send me images of underneath. (Had to leave had an appt) I know the exhaust is modified, I can smell the exhaust and I see oil crud from the top and I can see part of the wire of an O2 sensor hanging out.
If I am correct From the front exhaust, we have the 1st Cat. Converter and then the flex pipe and then the 2nd Cat. Converter with O2 sensors (up and down of the 2nd Cat.) that whole pie is changed out.
The Flex part is gone and so is the 2nd Catalytic Converter unless I am wrong he keeps telling me the Cat is not deleted and that Straight pipe has been increased in diameter. Look at the images. I'm a diesel man so this gas VW is new to me...
FINALLY THE QUESTIONS!!!!
What will it cost to make this thing pass NJ emissions where they scan the OBD2 to pass?
Have these modifications screwed up the car? I don't feel too happy with someone driving a car with all these codes for a while, maybe two years....
Is this one of those mods I will never get the codes to stay off and does this have a huge effect on the engine, what about DSG etc...
I apologize worried is all... Like do you need to go OEM with the Cat Back all new sensors and even then it can be a nightmare I dont want. I have one wife I dont wanna marry this car if its going to be a POS
It has low mileage (60K). This car is for the wife I just want 'factory' and for it to be a reliable car. Very worried about this car it has the DSG transmission and I'm not sure
how it will hold up if this guy was beating on the car. .Prev owner had it for 2 years and 24K miles. I wish I knew the history of what he did or it could have been prior to him.
See Images I dont see a second CAT Conv. and the one image is like stretchy sorry it what was sent to me....
My previous car was a VW Diesel it was a 2012 Jetta TDI premium with a DSG and it only had 50K miles and a girl with a driving permit totaled the car ... was bad... the wife got flipped did a 540 in it! and she wants another VW but the prices are too high and so are the miles for used cars right now....
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The wifey went there on Thursday, it was late and it was getting dark and she said the car looked great but it had an accident at 10K miles in 2014. No problem... has 60K now
She liked the car and wants me to check it... The repair was fine at 10K body work was like a 4.5 outta 5.
Now I get there yesterday and I start the Car.... Here is what I notice...
1) The Fans keep revving up and down so they rev up for around 5 seconds and then back down to off. Started soon as I started car and stayed that way.
2) I can hear the exhaust sounds different... after a few mins I can even smell it. The exhaust tips are black (dual tips) like it was rolling coal but is not a diesel.
3) Check engine light comes on after 5 mins! It was not on the night before either.
So I hookup a scanner I pull 5 Engine codes and no others of note.
P0420 - Catalyst System,Bank1 Efficiency Below Threshold
P1945 - Coolant Fan Control (FC) Module 1: Fan Activation Short Circuit
P1950 - Coolant Fan for Coolant : difficulty of movement / blocked
P2095 - Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System (Bank 1) Too Lean
P2196 - O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich (Bank 1 Sensor 1)
I can not get under the car at this lot. Im 50 and flabby! LOL What I do notice is a drip from the drain plug (no big deal). Engine cover is missing. I think he had a Cold Air Intake the car is very clean so can't understand why that would be gone for no reason. Someone pressure washed the engine I can tell, and if I look down on the Front Right (passenger) headlight and down to the bottom cover under the pulleys, I can see a lot of old crud/oil buildup on the skid plate cover. Basically its at the passenger side of engine and straight down. So I mention to this salesman... everything I see and when I tell him about the codes he goes yeah they are all Emission codes. So the dude is aware of it but never told the wife or me... Cmon like that many codes won't come back? Like it needs to Pass Emissions in NJ..WTF?
I think , heck I know! He must of cleared the engine codes because the CEL was Off originally and was playing stupid.
He now says he just got the car in a week ago and didn't bring to the mechanic yet. Car was only on lot for a week cause I pass it all the time, he told 1 truth. So I said to him okay then bring it to your mechanic and when you are there send me images of underneath. (Had to leave had an appt) I know the exhaust is modified, I can smell the exhaust and I see oil crud from the top and I can see part of the wire of an O2 sensor hanging out.
If I am correct From the front exhaust, we have the 1st Cat. Converter and then the flex pipe and then the 2nd Cat. Converter with O2 sensors (up and down of the 2nd Cat.) that whole pie is changed out.
The Flex part is gone and so is the 2nd Catalytic Converter unless I am wrong he keeps telling me the Cat is not deleted and that Straight pipe has been increased in diameter. Look at the images. I'm a diesel man so this gas VW is new to me...
FINALLY THE QUESTIONS!!!!
What will it cost to make this thing pass NJ emissions where they scan the OBD2 to pass?
Have these modifications screwed up the car? I don't feel too happy with someone driving a car with all these codes for a while, maybe two years....
Is this one of those mods I will never get the codes to stay off and does this have a huge effect on the engine, what about DSG etc...
I apologize worried is all... Like do you need to go OEM with the Cat Back all new sensors and even then it can be a nightmare I dont want. I have one wife I dont wanna marry this car if its going to be a POS
It has low mileage (60K). This car is for the wife I just want 'factory' and for it to be a reliable car. Very worried about this car it has the DSG transmission and I'm not sure
how it will hold up if this guy was beating on the car. .Prev owner had it for 2 years and 24K miles. I wish I knew the history of what he did or it could have been prior to him.
See Images I dont see a second CAT Conv. and the one image is like stretchy sorry it what was sent to me....
My previous car was a VW Diesel it was a 2012 Jetta TDI premium with a DSG and it only had 50K miles and a girl with a driving permit totaled the car ... was bad... the wife got flipped did a 540 in it! and she wants another VW but the prices are too high and so are the miles for used cars right now....
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