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Enlighten me: CPO 2013 GTI For $19,999 a good deal?

Hi everyone!

What do you think about this deal for a CPO 2013 GTI DSG for $19,999.


I live in Hawaii where there is very little supply so dealers charge near MSRP for a new one. I see that the KBB fair price is $19,800 which seems a little high. I'd love to hear your thoughts since I've never owned a VW but have been researching them quite a bit lately.

EDIT: Looks like someone purchased the car.
 
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PLF8593

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Hm your location does change things, but considering 2 dr manual s model Mk7 GTIs can be had for ~21/22K brand new, thats just not a great price
 
Hm your location does change things, but considering 2 dr manual s model Mk7 GTIs can be had for ~21/22K brand new, thats just not a great price
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Craigslist should yield better deals but I was attracted to that 2 yr warranty. Thanks for your sharing your thoughts.
 

whitewolf33

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Low mileage but its also the base model. It doesnt even have steering wheel controls. I think I'd pass at that price
 
Low mileage but its also the base model. It doesnt even have steering wheel controls. I think I'd pass at that price
Yeah, I noticed that when I test drove it. A very basic experience compared to the videos I see of the new GTIs that can park themselves, have navigation with CarPlay, change driving modes on the touchscreen, etc.

Would you be concerned about the carbon buildup issue or is the mileage low enough to not worry? I know the dealer here charges $1000 for the cleaning.
 

artur1292

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The carbon build up is not really an issue until you get to 40-50k miles. Even then unless you are going to tune the car it isn't much of an issue. My car only started cold start misfiring (a common sign that it is time for a carbon cleaning) a few days after I got tuned at 45,500 miles. It was a non issue on the stock tune and only became apparent after I tuned my car so yeah. Stock tune should get you to at least 75,000 miles or more depending on your driving habits. With a tune if your car hasn't been driven hard 40-50k. My car was owned by a girl before I got it at 40k miles so it probably never saw red line ever in it's life which would explain why mine would have a lot of carbon build up to cause issues at stage 1+.
 
The carbon build up is not really an issue until you get to 40-50k miles. Even then unless you are going to tune the car it isn't much of an issue. My car only started cold start misfiring (a common sign that it is time for a carbon cleaning) a few days after I got tuned at 45,500 miles. It was a non issue on the stock tune and only became apparent after I tuned my car so yeah. Stock tune should get you to at least 75,000 miles or more depending on your driving habits. With a tune if your car hasn't been driven hard 40-50k. My car was owned by a girl before I got it at 40k miles so it probably never saw red line ever in it's life which would explain why mine would have a lot of carbon build up to cause issues at stage 1+.
Thanks! That is really useful knowledge.
 

thewalkingdad

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I (in May) paid about $18k for my 2013 GTI Driver's Edition with 66K miles. But it was $18k out the door (registration, taxes, fees, etc).

I still think I paid a little much for a high mileage car, but sometimes, in order to get the car you want, you pay a little extra and in the long run it's worth it.
 
I (in May) paid about $18k for my 2013 GTI Driver's Edition with 66K miles. But it was $18k out the door (registration, taxes, fees, etc).

I still think I paid a little much for a high mileage car, but sometimes, in order to get the car you want, you pay a little extra and in the long run it's worth it.
Did the car already have the 4 yr/40k mile service w/DSG fluid change? That service is over $1,000 at the dealer here which I don't look forward to if I buy a 2013. Was it a CPO with the 2 yr warranty?

Thanks for sharing your purchase and thoughts.
 
You can get a new 2016 like 21k...


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On the mainland no doubt. In Hawaii, there are only two dealers and after much negotiation they won't go below $25,900 for a base 2016 DSG. They don't get many in every year. I did see someone from Hawaii on VWVortex that got a base model in Hawaii for $24,500ish but he was a repeat customer and had a family and friends certificate.
 

thewalkingdad

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Did the car already have the 4 yr/40k mile service w/DSG fluid change? That service is over $1,000 at the dealer here which I don't look forward to if I buy a 2013. Was it a CPO with the 2 yr warranty?

Thanks for sharing your purchase and thoughts.
To be honest, I don't know. I would like to think so considering that was 26K miles ago, but who knows. There wasn't really any warranty talk when I bought the car. But after being around the forums and seeing some of the issues, I might look into an extended warranty.

I bought it at a BMW dealership. Former owner upgraded to a BMW and traded in the GTI. It was bone stock though.
 

Fastlax16

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On the mainland no doubt. In Hawaii, there are only two dealers and after much negotiation they won't go below $25,900 for a base 2016 DSG. They don't get many in every year. I did see someone from Hawaii on VWVortex that got a base model in Hawaii for $24,500ish but he was a repeat customer and had a family and friends certificate.


Do the big year end rebates from vw not apply to Hawaii? My buddy picked up a base 16 dsg for 21 last month. Might be worth it to buy in socal and stick it on a boat? Google says you can do it for under a grand.


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Do the big year end rebates from vw not apply to Hawaii? My buddy picked up a base 16 dsg for 21 last month. Might be worth it to buy in socal and stick it on a boat? Google says you can do it for under a grand.


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I've researched that route but having to pay the 5% higher sales tax and registration twice plus shipping would negate a substantial portion of the value.

Those big $5-6 off MSRP deals are just not here. But to the dealers' credit, there are only 13 GTIs for sale in the entire state and 4 sold last week alone. So they clearly have no need to mark them down.

I'm hoping a good deal on Craigslist comes available at a better value.
 

Fastlax16

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I've researched that route but having to pay the 5% higher sales tax and registration twice plus shipping would negate a substantial portion of the value.



Those big $5-6 off MSRP deals are just not here. But to the dealers' credit, there are only 13 GTIs for sale in the entire state and 4 sold last week alone. So they clearly have no need to mark them down.



I'm hoping a good deal on Craigslist comes available at a better value.


Why would you pay the registration and tax twice? We've bought several cars out of state and you only pay it in the state you're registering in.


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Why would you pay the registration and tax twice? We've bought several cars out of state and you only pay it in the state you're registering in.


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Really? I was reading other threads and people mentioned having to pay for registration both in the state they bought it and when they brought it back to their home state. I'll definitely look into it more.
 
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