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Another way to get more resolution out of vag-com is to choose data from the same groups.

For example, don't grab RPM from group 1 and then nothing else from that group.

If you have a group where you're grabbing other items, and RPM is in that group, grab RPM from that group instead.

The fewer you use, the faster logging will be.
 

allset

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^Don't you guys have a tweak on your site to get more data out of a micro-can cable?

i dont think it matters, since the micro can is inherently limited to a max baud rate
 

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allset

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How much timing pull is safe on APR tunes?

there's no "safe" timing pull per say.

timing pull or retard is a reaction or a "safety" in simple terms. a way to look at it is if timing is consistently being pulled more than -6 ( further than -6 in the negative range) there could be a problem. occasional pull 0 to -3 is considered spec
 

k03tfsi

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there's no "safe" timing pull per say.

timing pull or retard is a reaction or a "safety" in simple terms. a way to look at it is if timing is consistently being pulled more than -6 ( further than -6 in the negative range) there could be a problem. occasional pull 0 to -3 is considered spec

Ok... I see about -4,5 midrange and -3 at high rpm (5-6k) over 6k it is clear...
 

allset

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Ok... I see about -4,5 midrange and -3 at high rpm (5-6k) over 6k it is clear...

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0 to 14 degrees and above is considered timing advance and is favorable b/c it in combination with ignition and piston position creates the most power.

0 to -12 and lower is timing pull and occurs for a number of reasons when conditions aren't right which reduces the power being made via the same process as above but its chiral-opposite.

rpm doesn't matter much u can pull in idle.
 
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k03tfsi

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0 to 14 degrees and above is considered timing advance and is favorable b/c it in combination with ignition and piston position creates the most power.

0 to -12 and lower is timing pull and occurs for a number of reasons when conditions aren't right which reduces the power being made via the same process as above but its chiral-opposite.

rpm doesn't matter much u can pull in idle.

I know what you mean but I speak for timing pull...
 

allset

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I know what you mean but I speak for timing pull...

ah, right, i misunderstood your post. yes anthing -4 to 0 is "ok" but u should be advancing timing under load at lower-mid to high rpms.

if u are pulling more than -4 or-6 under load at mid to high rpms, you may have a problem. u should most always be advacing timing under load not pulling
 

k03tfsi

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ah, right, i misunderstood your post. yes anthing -4 to 0 is "ok" but u should be advancing timing under load at lower-mid to high rpms.

if u are pulling more than -4 or-6 under load at mid to high rpms, you may have a problem. u should most always be advacing timing under load not pulling

That's right... I have about +10 in midrange advancing to 18 at high rpms and cf pull about -4.5 in mid and falling to -3 at high... with 0 cf from 6 to 7k with 18.8° advance.
 

allset

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That's right... I have about +10 in midrange advancing to 18 at high rpms and cf pull about -4.5 in mid and falling to -3 at high... with 0 cf from 6 to 7k with 18.8° advance.

u should post the logs/graphs here. thats what this thread is for.
 

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*it's a 1.8tsi! K04 apr stg3! setting for 95octane

the file 98octane is more aggressiv and has more timing pull ( CF )
 
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