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Let's Discuss Clutch Options (Disc, Pressure Plate, Flywheel) - Summary of discussion

Dans GTI1

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Get a Sachs kit and don't look back....it's made by the OEM, what more could you want lol

TSI_mrniceguy- My BSH motor/trans mounts and HPA puck added a lot of vibration, but the SMFW added what I can only describe as "marbles in the transmission" kind of noise. It's weird at first, but once you come to terms with the fact that it is NOT hurting anything, it's totally fine. Again, NVH tolerance varies between different people. You will definitely notice and NVH change, but that will hold true with any SMFW. You can't expect to put aftermarket parts i nyour car and have it act like a stock car, there's trade offs for everything.

My advice, don't bust your head for too long, pick one and I'm sure you'll be happy.
I ended up getting this kit, http://www.clutchstop.co.uk/products/sachs-performance-clutch-kit-883089-000046.html

Found someone on UK forums selling it brand new in the box, i was able to get it for $600 :happyanim:
 
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[Old User]

Go Kart Champion
Just emailed BFI with a bunch of questions about their clutch kits, will report back what I find.


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[Old User]

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Harris,

You're correct in that the single mass flywheel does exhibit some chatter. Our flywheels are not noticeably louder than others however. This is a characteristic of all LW flywheels. Typically you will hear the sound with your foot off the clutch in neutral while stopped, then also a chatter sound on decel. The benefits as you mentioned though are a much fast revving engine and a faster spooling turbo consequently.

The kits that retain the DMF are good for a while, however we are starting to see those fail after 50k miles, as they just are not aggressive enough to hold up. Our 2500 lb pressure plate and clutch disc options are extremely stout and to date we have not had anyone complain about our clutch kits slipping.
This is what BFI said, responded the next morning.

I just followed up with them to find out what material is on the disc - hopefully organic.

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[Old User]

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I know that rev hang is a combination of emissions software AND the 38 pound boat anchor oem flywheel... so does a lightweight flywheel actually make that much of a difference in engine response/ rev hang/ etc? Is it really worth the noise?


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charanyadma

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Hello guys, I have a 2011 mk6 gti 6 spd, the clutch squeaks when I take the car out for the first time in winter. ( I checked it's not the pedal) the sound seems to be coming from the inside. Any ideas?

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Dans GTI1

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Hello guys, I have a 2011 mk6 gti 6 spd, the clutch squeaks when I take the car out for the first time in winter. ( I checked it's not the pedal) the sound seems to be coming from the inside. Any ideas?

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Its a common and known problem. What your hearing is the Throw Out Bearing (TOB) squeal. All you can really do is just live with it. To replace the TOB it requires removing the transmission. Most people have had this problem, i had it also. Its annoying, but its not worth dropping a transmission to replace just the TOB. Most people wait for their clutches to start slipping and replace the clutch and TOB at the same time.
 

drift_boy

Passed Driver's Ed
What about DSG Gearboxes?

How is one able to tell if the clutch need replacing?

I m currently driven a 2010 vw mk6 gti for a good 200,000km and have not replaced my clutch once . Any advise how do i test it out ?

Much appreciated .
 

mlody91

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Has anyone installed or even heard of DKM (Der Kupplungs Meister)? They offer twin disc clutch kits for the mk6 with their 18.6 lb SMFW and supposedly, "The two organic disc setup provides additional contact surface area for higher torque capacity and longer lifecycle."

Here's the link http://www.dkmclutch.eu/
 

Joveen

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was looking them up too hooefully someone has had an experience with them if not i might buy it and give a review

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mlody91

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was looking them up too hooefully someone has had an experience with them if not i might buy it and give a review

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Bump. Hoping this gets some traction. Deciding between DKM stage 3 with the twin clutch disc setup, RSR or Southbend's Stage 2 daily.
 

bmllr8

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The twin clutch DKM sounds like it could be overkill. I was leaning towards the RSR because it would be quieter than the SB Stage 2, but ended up going withe SB unit as I was not comfortable leaving the dual mass flywheel in a car with 40k miles. Don't get me wrong, lots of people reuse the old dual mass flywheel, but I felt more comfortable with all new parts. Is the SB stage 2 louder than stock? Yes, but I really like the clutch feel. If you can find someone with a SB clutch it would be a good idea to listen to it as everyone has a different tolerance for noise.
 
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TSI_Guy

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A twin disc is way overkill for the vast majority on this forum.....

RSR if you want the DMFW....if not, I'd recommend the Sachs SRE Stage 2 w/SMFW. The Sachs kit is an organic disc that has a really smooth engagement. I daily drove it in bumper to bumper traffic for a year or so with 0 complaints.

My car was K04 and never slipped once.

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mlody91

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A twin disc is way overkill for the vast majority on this forum.....

RSR if you want the DMFW....if not, I'd recommend the Sachs SRE Stage 2 w/SMFW. The Sachs kit is an organic disc that has a really smooth engagement. I daily drove it in bumper to bumper traffic for a year or so with 0 complaints.

My car was K04 and never slipped once.

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I've been eyeing the SRE clutch and RSR clutch for quite some time now, but I think I'm leaning more towards the SRE clutch....just haven't found a distributor with a fair enough price. $1,400 from emmanuelle designs plus some additional $ for the metal TOB is not exactly a pill I can justify swallowing.
 

bmllr8

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I did look at the SRE as well and agree that it would be a great option. I went SB simply because I could get it for less and the local independent VW shop that installed mine has a lot of happy customers running the SB Stage 2.
 
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