dragon69185
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Haha, I had the opposite happen to me. the X10s wouldn't stay in while working out and I like the clarity on the S4s for some reason :laugh:
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Lets talk about home stereo/theater
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Hilfloskind
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I cannot stand the feeling of in ear buds...got a pair of S4s, returned them the next day after 3 hours of trying to find comfort. I ended up going through two pairs of Beats (solo and studio)...the solo ones broke at the pivots and the studios had so much leekage that they were impossible to use in work. They also had inflated bass and muddy overall sound IMHO. I now use Pioneer DJ headphones...HDJ-1000. They sound great and natural without inflated tones.
dragon69185
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I second that on the Beats. Too muddy and they try too hard with over compensating with their bass to sound 'good'. Sennheiser, Klipsch (yes, I actually like a lot of the Klipsch headphones) and Denon have an over the ears that I have listened to that I like and does a good job with reproductions of sounds (I liked the Denon in ears as well, they just were really uncomfortable after a little while).
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i tried a few headphones...
the Beats Studio, some Sonys with big ass cups..
what did i end up with? don't laugh.
Bose QC-15's.
They beat the Beat's in sound, although they arent mind blowing sound quality. But the only reason I bought them was they are king of noise cancelling. I work in data centers every day, and its amazing how it puts you in a vacuum. I love them, although they were way expensive. Let the haters talk shit on Bose, the headphones are high quality craftsmanship. Only negative for me is kind of a far away sound until you turn it up. But thats cuz its so silent.
Now I did have Bose towers and center channel once... and they did kind of suck. I wouldny buy Bose speakers unless it was the entire theatre setup, which is mind blowing.
the Beats Studio, some Sonys with big ass cups..
what did i end up with? don't laugh.
Bose QC-15's.
They beat the Beat's in sound, although they arent mind blowing sound quality. But the only reason I bought them was they are king of noise cancelling. I work in data centers every day, and its amazing how it puts you in a vacuum. I love them, although they were way expensive. Let the haters talk shit on Bose, the headphones are high quality craftsmanship. Only negative for me is kind of a far away sound until you turn it up. But thats cuz its so silent.
Now I did have Bose towers and center channel once... and they did kind of suck. I wouldny buy Bose speakers unless it was the entire theatre setup, which is mind blowing.
So far my favorite headphones in the past where Etymotic HF2's, Grado SR60's, Sennheiser PX100's... And now my current favorites are my B&W P5's and my B&W C5's (with complyfoam tips)
In fact I think I may like the C5's more the the P5's... The low frequency sounds fuller, and the stage actually sounds wider and more special than the P5's... But you got to get fitment right... Complyfoam tips help a lot with fitment.
In fact I think I may like the C5's more the the P5's... The low frequency sounds fuller, and the stage actually sounds wider and more special than the P5's... But you got to get fitment right... Complyfoam tips help a lot with fitment.
JewFro
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I think headphones are the "gateway" drug to being an audiophile
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As a young kid (like 8-9) I used to love just sitting in front of my dads stereo using his Sennheiser headphones.
My main pair right now are some AKG Quincy Jones Q460's which have been great over the past 6 months. I bought them mainly for travel and work since they fold up and come with a nice padded zip case. The sound quality is very nice too, pretty well balanced with warm mids, tight base, and clean highs although I sometimes wish the highs were a bit more defined.
Before home audio it was car audio. The GTI is the first car I've resisted doing much with the stereo besides adding a small sub.
My M3 had OG German made 3 way MB Quart components up front with the lows in the kick panels which were some of the most fantastic car speakers I've had yet. The crossovers were so big they had to be mounted in the trunk behind the carpet.
My Sentra had a mix of Hertz, Arc Audio, and Elemental designs stuff all of which I thoroughly enjoyed.
Anyways!
Question for you more experienced guys. What are your opinions on adding a center channel to a 2.1 system? One of the biggest annoyances when calibrating my stereo was measuring the distance of each speaker to the usual listening space and then delaying each speaker to reflect the distance difference. Its pretty much spot on now but it took a lot longer than I'd like to admit to get it dialed in. To me there is still a slight imbalance between channels that I can't help but think a center channel would help balance.
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As a young kid (like 8-9) I used to love just sitting in front of my dads stereo using his Sennheiser headphones.
My main pair right now are some AKG Quincy Jones Q460's which have been great over the past 6 months. I bought them mainly for travel and work since they fold up and come with a nice padded zip case. The sound quality is very nice too, pretty well balanced with warm mids, tight base, and clean highs although I sometimes wish the highs were a bit more defined.
Before home audio it was car audio. The GTI is the first car I've resisted doing much with the stereo besides adding a small sub.
My M3 had OG German made 3 way MB Quart components up front with the lows in the kick panels which were some of the most fantastic car speakers I've had yet. The crossovers were so big they had to be mounted in the trunk behind the carpet.
My Sentra had a mix of Hertz, Arc Audio, and Elemental designs stuff all of which I thoroughly enjoyed.
Anyways!
Question for you more experienced guys. What are your opinions on adding a center channel to a 2.1 system? One of the biggest annoyances when calibrating my stereo was measuring the distance of each speaker to the usual listening space and then delaying each speaker to reflect the distance difference. Its pretty much spot on now but it took a lot longer than I'd like to admit to get it dialed in. To me there is still a slight imbalance between channels that I can't help but think a center channel would help balance.
If you're adding a center channels for movies/ HT then do it for a number of reasons.
1) it's best to have your center and L/R to match so get the same model line
2) if you don't get it now, what are the chances of getting the matching center later after the model line gets redesigned
3) your front 3 speakers are the most important for HT... as you can use any cheapo speaker for surround if you're on a budget or maybe one model line lower for surround
Don't add a center for Stereo... that's just gonna complicate things more...
From what I remember, you have a wall on one side and open on the other correct?
adding acoustic panels will help with the imbalance... check out www.acoustimac.com for some cheap panels (that's what is hanging on my wall and ceiling in the pictures)
also maybe moving your speakers forward a little so the cabinet does not get in the way and toe them in a little (I like my speakers toed in far enough that the sound crosses just infront of my face... seems to wide the sweet spot)
dragon69185
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It is up to you. Since you primarily listen to music as you have stated, the center would just add filler to the front presence, but wouldn't necessarily add depth to the audio. A center would definitely would help for movies to give more clarity, but that would all you would be gaining.
As PandaGTI suggested, probably toeing the fronts slightly in would probably help to fill in the 'gap' that you have. The acoustic panels behind you probably would help as well.
I have been contemplating upgrading my sound system as well, but don't know if I really want to or not. Thinking of doing the Def Tech towers (just the basic 8020s), keeping my Energy center, removing the rears and Mirage 8" sub (the Def Tech towers have 8" powered subs built into them), and technically leaving the fronts as a 3 piece set only (by technical standpoint, it is still a 3.2 because of the power subs, but meh). Basically looking as a way to clean up my entertainment center.
As for the other parts, I would be horrible and move the Energy bookshelves and sub to my bedroom and hook it up to my iPod and use it as my new alarm clock system :laugh:
Do Work Son
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Most actual "headphones" provide better sound than Beats which are nothing more than tiny subwoofers aimed directly at your eardrum. LOL
Hmph. Maybe my S4's are a tad muddier than yours because the X10s are clear as day in comparison.
A bit more on topic - I can get a used Bose Companion 2.1 system for my TV pretty cheap. I want to say that would suffice for now but my TV is in a wide open basement so the sound will probably get lost. Thoughts? Hold out for a 5.1 system and mount the rears on the ceiling aiming down?
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the bose complete systems are much better than anyone who hasnt heard one would think. can't go wrong with it.
my sisters husband has the 2.1 companion.. it blows away the setup i posted above. not kidding. clearer, and better bass. (well for TV... maybe not for music..)
Do Work Son
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I have the 2.1 Companion for my PC and it's great. I'm just not sure it's going to be powerful enough to warrant installing in a 1 room basement.
Maybe I should try hooking up this one with a splitter component cable to the TV and test it out. Now I'm regretting mounting the TV so close to the wall.
Maybe I should try hooking up this one with a splitter component cable to the TV and test it out. Now I'm regretting mounting the TV so close to the wall.
jbcritch
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I dont know much about Home Theaters, but I know what I like. This Christmas the wife and I remodeled our keeping room (look it up for those of you up North) and as a result had to get a new home theater too (the old stuff went in the keeping room.
We went from this, to this (Toshiba 42" plasma to Samsung 60" LED. New components to go with the new TV too):
We went from this, to this (Toshiba 42" plasma to Samsung 60" LED. New components to go with the new TV too):
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dragonslayer33101
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still building mine but right now a Samsung 40", Denon AVR889, Klipsch F3, and Klipsch C3, need a sub and some rears...