Far from new, sorry you need to feel superior. When I see APR dyno sheets, I don't KNOW that they actually put a car on a dyno. BUT, someone else can surely buy their tune and then prove the dyno sheet by replicating it. All I'm looking for is that replication, I don't understand the hostility honestly. Sorry I'd like some hard evidence before I spend money, I have kids and a mortgage. If I still lived with my parents maybe I could just toss money at packs with red tops and feel good about it. Get a grip.These new kids Will. SMH.