To sell or not to sell... that is the question #firstworldproblems

[McQueen77]

if you really loved it you wouldn't sell it, unless you are just hurting for money. sounds like you are being rational and value/money minded, much like I am. though, that can get you in trouble because you will kick yourself for selling the vette. but there are many cool cars out there that you could buy again some day that are similar to the vette. its not like some rare, restored porshe or some old jag or something.. i know you've customized it but, really..

what is the estimated pp value of the vette? how much do you owe on the TDI?

this is easier for me to say though because vettes aren't my style. still, i'd still sell it. sounds like what you really need is a daily driver that is somewhat economical but will still excite you and be a driver's car.. plenty of those out there. if you hold onto the TDI, you'll get more and more sick of it, you'll trade it in or sell it w/money still owed on it and you'll get another, slightly faster, slightly more fun car like a Mk7 while still having the vette in your garage and having another car payment. car payments suck balls man. paying interest on a depreciating asset that is getting driven a little closer to its demise every single day is depressing. car payments aren't quite as bad as just paying old credit card debt, but they are a close second.

 

[maxtdi]

what is the estimated pp value of the vette? how much do you owe on the TDI?

prob around 18k on Vette, 14.5k owed on TDI.

I'm pretty good with money being upside down and trading it in and losing my ass won't be part of the future buying equation. I specifically chose the TDI for resale value/mpg and fun to drive factor for a daily.

I would have gone GTI but the economy factor wasn't exactly there since it would average close to the corvette. And I was too tempted to get an autobahn...

 

[McQueen77]

kind of a bummer you don't want to keep the TDI though.. big thing in the TDI community for old and new models is that they tend to go for like hundreds of thousands of miles. diesel engines last longer than gasoline.. reliability on TDIs is also much better than GTIs. You could get 250k miles on that TDI easy. easy. i know a guy with a Jetta wagon TDI, 2004 or something, with 200k and going strong, OEM clutch, OEM everything practically. resale is insane on the TDI too. i dont know. maybe you shouldnt sell it.

sounds to me like the real issue is that your love for the vette has faded. its ok.. you two have grown apart. it happens. for every hot chick out there, i'll show you a guy who is sick of..

SO, that being said, why not just swallow the car payment, pay it off, keep the TDI for like, ever, and sell the vette so you can buy yourself a fast, possibly project car? thats another option. i think you are bored, but i don't think selling the vette, paying off the TDI and then getting a mk7 GTI or something is going to do it for you.

trust me, after a while, the GTI just becomes 'your car' like any other car. you hate it as much as you love it.. at least i do. and even with stage 1, its not that fast. it feels faster than it is. today on the way home, this fat backwards black LA dodger hat guy (you know they are dicks when they go with the black dodger hat) was really riding my ass coming off the interchange, rolling in his Camry, think it was a 4 cyl Camry, and so i kind of tapped my brakes to aggravate him and he like, lost his shit with anger, was basically chasing me on the freeway. so i thought "oh screw this guy, punch it and he'll be gone.. but no, he kept up with me for a while and kept keeping up with me.

moral of the story is that the GTI is slow unless you are willing to drop thousands into power mods i.e. K04 etc.. then you could be faster than a Camry. (sadface)

 

[troyguitar]

moral of the story is that the GTI is slow unless you are willing to drop thousands into power mods i.e. K04 etc.. then you could be faster than a Camry. (sadface)

I passed a C5 Vette outright down the straightaway at Watkins Glen with stage 1 tune on 100 octane... the GTI is not THAT slow.

That being said, I'd rather drive the Vette if I already had one. Doesn't the C5 get 30 mpg highway anyway?

I'm single with no friends and a short commute though, so no worries about 2 doors or crappy city mileage :lol:

 

[Gunkata]

I sold my C6 for similar reasons. Never drove it, sat in the garage. Perhaps if it had the 08+ revised trans, I would have drove it more, other than, it was just sitting - paid off and all, and I got rid of it. Sometimes I regret it, sometimes I don't. It's hard to make the 2 car situation work (mentally, not speaking financially) unless you can really balance it out, and that's why im back to a one car deal - for now at least.

I think waiting to see what the MKVII GTI or R brings about is a good idea to possibly consider getting out of both cars and going to one car that can "do it all" for the most part.

 

[AF-MKVI]

Sell the Vett and buy a bike! The only way to commute in California. I lived in LA for four years and never even owned a car, always felt bad for the people sitting in traffic as I went passed them.....also faster than almost any car made I miss my bikes, if I was not stuck in the northeast I would have one again. I rode 40,000+ miles a year and loved every mile. Also bike track days are cheap as hell out there.

 

[FLtrooper]

Sell it!!

It's a nice vehicle but it's not like its a collector car and your losing value in it all the time!

I'm the same way with my motorcycle.. I love it but its just stitting in garage losing value, so I'm going to get rid of it. If I ever want another one I will just get one!

 

[Rotaryknight]

Sell it!!

It's a nice vehicle but it's not like its a collector car and your losing value in it all the time!

I feel the same. There will always be something "cooler" in the future. You haven't put too much in mods in it either so there won't be much loss on that. It's not like it's a project car that you're heavily modding and sitting on jack stands in your garage.

Later if you feel you really need that car again I'm sure you'll find one in the used market very easily.

 

[McQueen77]

I passed a C5 Vette outright down the straightaway at Watkins Glen with stage 1 tune on 100 octane... the GTI is not THAT slow.

That being said, I'd rather drive the Vette if I already had one. Doesn't the C5 get 30 mpg highway anyway?

Ok. its not that slow, but this camry kept up with me fine.. Although, it may have been the V6 now that i think of it and a V6 camry smokes a stage 1 GTI. this guy was also totally insane.

I'm single with no friends and a short commute though, so no worries about 2 doors or crappy city mileage :lol:

I'm keeping the 2 door well into my upcoming kid's toddler years (so I say now anyway).. Wife has a four door and I know quite a few people who have made 2 doors or coupes work with a kid. Very common around these parts to see the mom with a 4 door and dad in a 2. it can be done.

 

[Vancity2Constantinople1]

sell it! get the new mk7 and mod the shit out of it! you know you want it!

 

[maxtdi]

kind of a bummer you don't want to keep the TDI though.. big thing in the TDI community for old and new models is that they tend to go for like hundreds of thousands of miles. diesel engines last longer than gasoline.. reliability on TDIs is also much better than GTIs. You could get 250k miles on that TDI easy. easy. i know a guy with a Jetta wagon TDI, 2004 or something, with 200k and going strong, OEM clutch, OEM everything practically. resale is insane on the TDI too. i dont know. maybe you shouldnt sell it.

sounds to me like the real issue is that your love for the vette has faded. its ok.. you two have grown apart. it happens. for every hot chick out there, i'll show you a guy who is sick of..

SO, that being said, why not just swallow the car payment, pay it off, keep the TDI for like, ever, and sell the vette so you can buy yourself a fast, possibly project car? thats another option. i think you are bored, but i don't think selling the vette, paying off the TDI and then getting a mk7 GTI or something is going to do it for you.

trust me, after a while, the GTI just becomes 'your car' like any other car. you hate it as much as you love it.. at least i do. and even with stage 1, its not that fast. it feels faster than it is. today on the way home, this fat backwards black LA dodger hat guy (you know they are dicks when they go with the black dodger hat) was really riding my ass coming off the interchange, rolling in his Camry, think it was a 4 cyl Camry, and so i kind of tapped my brakes to aggravate him and he like, lost his shit with anger, was basically chasing me on the freeway. so i thought "oh screw this guy, punch it and he'll be gone.. but no, he kept up with me for a while and kept keeping up with me.

moral of the story is that the GTI is slow unless you are willing to drop thousands into power mods i.e. K04 etc.. then you could be faster than a Camry. (sadface)

Wow its surprisingly to me how similar we think... Let me respond to all of these points.

1. Yes my original plan was to keep the TDI forever, but the damn fuel pumps that blow up and cause 8-10k of damage to the cars powertrain really put a damper on that plan I don't think i'll own it outside of the 5/60 warranty... its just too big of a bullet to swallow. I researched the TDIs but I didn't find the TDI forums and the fuel pump failure threads after I purchased the car

2. You are correct, when I got the vette 6 years ago my priorities were a bit different, I wanted something really fast/flashy/reliable/affordable. Now I just want a lot more comfort.

3. I was thinking about selling the vette and buying an old classic car and keeping that for the weekend. But the prices of good classics are all over the place and I tried out buying a 1969 Firebird project... and ended up really disliking all the potential issues the car could have. And its easy to turn those cars into money pits. And frankly I don't see the point of that.

4. And if I get a MKVII I doubt I would modify the car much, if at all. The older I get the more I prefer stock, there are ALWAYS some kind of drawbacks to mods, and dealing with them frequently outweighs the mod itself. (Ie lowering the car, flashy wheels, power adders-voided warranties, issues etc)

 

[NYCSuits]

"You hang on to a car this cherry, kinda' like your suitcase"

The only way to get rid of a car like that is to sell it to someone who will appreciate it as much as you have

 

[Finkikus]

I'd trade my GTI for that corvette in a heart beat. Keep the thing if it puts a smile on your face. If not, dump it and forget about it.

 

[McQueen77]

Wow its surprisingly to me how similar we think...

4. And if I get a MKVII I doubt I would modify the car much, if at all. The older I get the more I prefer stock, there are ALWAYS some kind of drawbacks to mods, and dealing with them frequently outweighs the mod itself. (Ie lowering the car, flashy wheels, power adders-voided warranties, issues etc)

yes, ive noticed that as well.

i dont see why the newer TDIs wouldn't go as long as old ones. think of how much money youd save over time if that were the case? you could get any project car you wanted if the TDI just became the mule in your stable.. the failure you mention is unlikely I think but I understand your reservations. I just know, for myself, that the last thing that would make me happy is getting into another GTI after I'm done with this one.

I love the car but there are definitely some things lacking where only a different car would satisfy for me. Mainly comfort. I talk about that a lot on here but the suspension can just be relentless. Sure, when I get out on smooth roads or nice smooth windy backroads, its a dream, but day after day... This is NOT the ultimate daily driver by any means.

So Ill be left with a few choices. Keep it, paid off, for years. Just keep it. After a while, maybe just lease some daily and mod the GTI some more. Maybe go k04 and have it be my weekend project long term car and lease a base-line A4 as a commuter.. Or even just like a Jetta SEL.. Everyone likes to quote C&D articles and all this bullshit related to professionals testing cars on tracks but when you are driving to work, day after godamn day, in traffic over shit roads, guy my age just wants some comfort.

I agree about stock as well. I love Stage 1. It is what the car was lacking and at least VW is finally getting on the ball with a little more stock power. Id take that any day over always wondering if today will be the day I turn the car on, have some problem and enter into some ridiculous battle with the dealer where me, the guy who intentionally voided part of his powertrain warranty is demanding the dealer warranty my problem, possibly caused by me. lot of headache just to drive a stupid car brah.

 

[AF-MKVI]

yes, ive noticed that as well.

i dont see why the newer TDIs wouldn't go as long as old ones. think of how much money youd save over time if that were the case? you could get any project car you wanted if the TDI just became the mule in your stable.. the failure you mention is unlikely I think but I understand your reservations. I just know, for myself, that the last thing that would make me happy is getting into another GTI after I'm done with this one.

There are a lot more problems with the new TDI than just the insanely expensive fuel pump problems... VW dropped the ball on this one, I'm really bummed about it because I think my TDI is a much better package than the GTI as far as suspension set up for a daily driver and road noise. I'll be getting rid of mine also as soon as the MK7 GTI is out. Yes the odds are low of having a HPFP failure, but then you add in DPF failures, EGR failures, injectors, ect it becomes a loosing bet for long term viability. I would rather go with the devil I know... and the one that just happens to be heaping shit tons cheaper to fix (GTI).