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Unibrace UB Review

Aries Pope

Ready to race!
Historical Context: I got a Unibrace UB in the last group buy, and finally got it installed and tested out. I had waited since I was getting a downpipe, and it turned out that the Ultimate Racing Downpipe with Metal Cat and Resonator I got did NOT allow the Unibrace UB to fit without modification. This combo required the "Deep Nut and Spacer" kit also available from Unibrace for about $40. You can see the install notes and some photos on this thread. This kit was created by Bruce over at Unibrace to handle issues some folks were having with large resonator DP's. I was happy that Bruce over at Unibrace was paying attention to folks having this issue and came up with an integrated solution so folks didn't have to fiddle (ala plac crushing in his resonator to fit it) or just being unable to run the UB at all. That said, I still was less than thrilled with needing the spacers and deep nuts since I worry that the longer nuts could mean potentially more shearing force. (Perhaps Bruce or a Mech E wants to comment?) Also, the nuts were already pressing a little tight against the brace without the spacers due to tiny fitment issues, and this didn't help.

Daily Driving I immediately noticed a difference in my daily drive. First, my car doors and chassis used to always squeak and flex when I rolled over the dip/bump at the head of my driveway. This is the kind of thing I knew would only get worse over time. After getting the UB on, it stiffened right up --- now I get a solid "thunk-thunk pause thunk-thunk" as I come in over the dip diagonally rather than the old "squeak-scrape pause squeak-scrape". You can feel the car chassis actually rotate a little and force the bump onto the suspension as opposed to flexing the chassis to suck it up.

Also in my daily drive I am getting a little bit more "road feel". I anticipate that some may like this and others less so. At first the car felt a little "nervous" since I was feeling high frequency vibrations from the road that previously were damped out into the chassis flex (presumably). Later though, I didn't mind so much since it was giving me more information about the state of the road under my tires. I still wish these cars had electronically controlled damping since the section of highway on my commute really could use some "infrastructure upgrade" but on a clean road it feels great.

Twisty Goodness I managed to get out to some twisty little roads in the hills (Skyline Blvd and Rt 9 for you Bay folks) this weekend and had a blast. For those who haven't had the privilege, these roads around Big Basin are great to drive in the colder months when there are vastly less bicycles and hiking/camping traffic. Some sections of Rt 9 have a 45 mph speed limit and some turns drop to 15 or 20 mph. 45 is actually pretty generous since you'd be hard pressed to do much more than that on most of it (other similar roads are 30) and still have tons of safe fun within the speed limits. However, the big potential problem with this road is that it's a double yellow stripe and if you get behind someone in a Prius doing 25 mph who refuses to use turnouts regardless of having HID highbeams in his mirrors, you will undoubtedly begin to invent new curse words (luckily he stayed home on this particular evening). Luckily the Hummer H3 and Ford 150 I came up behind were gentlemen drivers and bowed into the turnouts to let me actually maintain the speed limit.

This kind of windy, twisty road is where the Unibrace UB started to shine. I noticed a bit less "slush" in fast left-right-left turn transitions and felt more confident in taking turns at slightly higher speeds than I usually would based on car feel. Again, a lot of that "squeak and scrape" chassis flexing sound was gone, and I could just feel more of the tires and road surface and less of the car flex, which is the main reason for confidence increase. Also I could still feel where the tires were starting to let me know they were working hard so I could stay well within the limits of the car's turning ability.

One note: once (again) I lost my nerve just as I started a certain tightening turn since I recalled a bad bump in the turn exit, so I tapped the brakes to bleed off a few MPH (a bad idea). When I did this last time (before I had the Unibrace), I was rewarded with some ABS and traction control rightfully telling me to "stop doing that, you idiot!". This time, though, the weight transferred a lot more quickly and the car held fine through the turn without a peep from the computers, right over the teeth rattling bad pavement after the turn.

Conclusion

All in all I am happy with the Unibrace UB. From what Bruce and others say, the Unibrace XB is a bigger bang for the buck in terms of stiffening and that they work well together. For me, the XB wasn't an option, but the UB is a welcome addition to my mods. In my daily ride it clears up the annoying squeaks over speedbumps and the like, and on a spirited weekend drive gives me a little better dynamics and road feel. The downside is a little more nervousness on the highway. If you want a little chassis stiffening and feel like a sway bar would be overkill for your needs, the Unibrace UB is certainly a good way to go!
 

Modshack1

Go Kart Champion
Excellent! I have both and agree completely, with the exception of the Plac bashing (of his resonator..:))...That was embarrassing to modders everywhere...:( Glad Bruce came up with a solution there.

Some say the XB is more effective...Hard to tell. I put the UB on first and noticed all the bennies you cite. The XB was just icing on the cake after that.

My skinny Magnaflow resonator cleared nicely...
 
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plac

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i talked to bruce (Unibrace) today actually, about that fitment issue. (Since mine had the same issue when i had one.) I might try and get some stud measurements for him, but i dont think it will make a difference, as every car will be a tad different. Me and you have slightly offset studs which makes it a bit harder to fit.

I am one of the only ones with the smallest UR resonator, so we still don't know if mine would fit. Would suck to buy it and find out it won't. I would not use that spacer kit on my car.
 

HardCandy

Go Kart Champion
However, the big potential problem with this road is that it's a double yellow stripe and if you get behind someone in a Prius doing 25 mph who refuses to use turnouts regardless of having HID highbeams in his mirrors, you will undoubtedly begin to invent new curse words


X lots! I loled.

I got out to hy 9 thursday night to try out my increased top end due from the DP, thats a great drive, 2 miles from the house :p But 45 is very conservative i regularly hit 80+ on 9 in the dead of night.

the ub already made my list a ways back, glad you like it and excellent honest review.
 

tmiw

Go Kart Champion
Great to hear that the UB helped with the squeaking! I was considering the XB but wasn't happy with losing cargo space (or having to continually remove it and reinstall when I want to fold the back seats down). Definitely going to get this mod when I'm able. :w00t:
 

Aries Pope

Ready to race!
X lots! I loled.

I got out to hy 9 thursday night to try out my increased top end due from the DP, thats a great drive, 2 miles from the house :p But 45 is very conservative i regularly hit 80+ on 9 in the dead of night.

the ub already made my list a ways back, glad you like it and excellent honest review.

Thanks!

I'm not denying there's straightaways that you can easily open up to 80+ and then back down on 9, nor am I confirming nor denying that my new Stage 2 was tested in any such manner there in this forum. In the past, however, I've come around turns and emergency stopped for a deer once and a rockslide on another run, so I tend to respect "sighting to stopping" distances on the turns, which is around 45 mph for my old reflexes. :)

My upgraded brake lines, fluid and pads do help some, but they're no BBK; GTI's don't stop nearly as fast as some other cars.
 
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plac

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What's the reason? Lack of fit and elegance?

well we experienced it together. it was the way the spacer nuts felt going on. related to the way the sheath was scraping on the side of the holes regarding your slightly offset stud. That tightening felt very sticky and unsure, and i was never confident it was at the correct tighteness. Obviously I didn't want to overdo it and break someone elses car. But it was just too rough an addition for me to use on my own car. Those studs are sensitive as it is, I would chose not to risk it. Of course that means i can't have one if it doesnt fit with my resonator.

if anyone in bay area buys a new one, i'll pay $20 in hand just to test fit it on my car for 2 mins so i dont waste money for nothing. just in case anyone happens to have one uninstalled. it would need to be at my place as i have all the right tools to do it quick.

or, i suppose.. i'd install it for you for free, as long as i can test fit it on my own car for 2 mins first.. with all that work, probably 30 min appt.
 
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plac

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No, but that's probably wise to go back and do.

i wouldnt, but you do what you feel is needed. will make those nuts even harder to get off some day. all you need to do is check them to make sure theyre not loose. i would say none are.
 

GTItraveler

Ready to race!
Great to hear that the UB helped with the squeaking! I was considering the XB but wasn't happy with losing cargo space (or having to continually remove it and reinstall when I want to fold the back seats down). Definitely going to get this mod when I'm able. :w00t:

TMIW: You DO NOT have to remove the UNIbrace XB when the seats are folded down. It works with the seats in the up, down and half down positions equally well. You only have to remove the UNIbrace XB if you are carrying a VERY large single item. I routinely travel to the track with four wheels, floor jack and all track equipment without taking the UNIbrace XB out. This holds true for bicycles as well. I just carry a moving blacket to lay over the brace and bicycles go over it. :thumbsup:
 

GTItraveler

Ready to race!
Aries: Thanks for the write up and glad that the UNIbrace UB gives you what you were looking for.

Regarding the spacer/deep nut kit, I designed these to meet customer requests. My opinion is that they have little effect on shear as they are quite wide and closely match the profile of the UNIbrace UB legs.

Regarding the issues that Plac has with his studs, as I mentioned to him in email, I am always trying to improve UNIbrace products. If it seems that there are some minute alignment issues I will revisit the hole placement/diameter and make an update in the next production run. The difficulty is that very few people have relayed this information to me. I would not hesitate to drill out the hole larger if necessary. Aluminum is quite soft and easy to drill, can be spot touched up with primer and paint and will not be seen once installed.

Regarding the use of Blue loctite I DO recommend this as it is primarily an anti-vibration aid and should not effect the removal of the nuts.
 
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plac

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I guess I didn't see any reason why it would be bad to just make the holes 1mm bigger. All it would do is make it fit a wider range of cars easily. I'm sure I am missing some of the engineering reasons though, as I didn't see any possible drawbacks. Maybe it would weaken the brace. My floppy tape measure would be useless to give you any accurate results on my particular car.

It was only one stud. in front. drivers side, probably outer. If I find a pic of one of my Unibraces I bet I can see the scraped metal around that hole. i know it scraped off the paint on the edge of the hole where i forced it on.

I can't remember which hole was off in Arie's car. pretty sure it was a rear one. i couldnt even turn the nut by hand. i had to very carefully use a small rachet.
 
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