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6TI

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Please excuse my ignorance. I searched for a while, but mainly found build threads or just people saying, "installed my euroswitch today!"

I'm curious as to how this is much different than stock. What are the positions and what do they offer in terms of light sequence?

A couple more dumb questions...

Where's the best place to buy one?

Will it throw a code?

And installing is as easy as pushing in on the stock switch, turning clockwise and pulling out, correct?

Thanks!
 

Tk_mkv1

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I dont have a euroswitch but you can buy at ecstuning.com. Euro switch is to get to have auto lights and the use of rear fogs on the bumper. There should be a instruction video of the instilation on the website where youll get to its page(yes its easy) and im sure it could throw a code, i have led tails which did that (which vagcom will solve it out).
 

Winoman

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I just ordered a Euroswitch on Amazon for around $25 shipped - by far the cheapest I've seen it anywhere. Haven't recieved it yet to comment on quality - but reviewers claim it it OEM and works great. Can't wait. I got it so that I could disable DRL and independently switch my parking & fog lights...at least I am hopeing it will do that for me...we'll see.
 

hiimelvin

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Euroswitch will allow for different functionality depending on which one you get. Most people get them to be able to run a rear fog light and/or parking lights. As you know on the stock switch it is either headlights on or off and a single pull for fog lights. On a Euroswitch you can run your parking lights without your headlights on and also run parking lights with front and (if installed) rear fogs on as well. Of course it still has the headlight on/off control as well.

It says MK5 but it is the same on MK6.

 

iamgap

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There won't be any codes to worry about. You will have to install a trigger wire. It is not that difficult, just hard on the back. The trigger wire is what causes the DRLs to stay off when the switch is in the off position.


gap
 

idriveastick

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So are you guys saying that with just the swap of the switch module, one can attain all of these modes (providing you have rear fogs)?

Seems odd that they didn't just supply this cheap part from the factory...or am I missing something?

Forgive me, I'm a complete newb.
 

6TI

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There won't be any codes to worry about. You will have to install a trigger wire. It is not that difficult, just hard on the back. The trigger wire is what causes the DRLs to stay off when the switch is in the off position.


gap
Trigger wire???

So you're saying i can keep DRL's off using this w/o vagcom?
 

6TI

Banned
So are you guys saying that with just the swap of the switch module, one can attain all of these modes (providing you have rear fogs)?

Seems odd that they didn't just supply this cheap part from the factory...or am I missing something?

Forgive me, I'm a complete newb.
NO you're right. Idk whyyyyyyyy they didn't give us this switch from the factor.......
 

smrtypants44

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So are you guys saying that with just the swap of the switch module, one can attain all of these modes (providing you have rear fogs)?

Seems odd that they didn't just supply this cheap part from the factory...or am I missing something?

Forgive me, I'm a complete newb.
They didnt put euro switches on US Market cars because US Market cars don't come with a rear fog.



There won't be any codes to worry about. You will have to install a trigger wire. It is not that difficult, just hard on the back. The trigger wire is what causes the DRLs to stay off when the switch is in the off position.


gap
No

The first trigger wire allows the operation of the parking light position (city lights+rear running lights). The second trigger wire allows the switch to operate the rear fog. Since VW never intended for US cars to have those capabilities, they did not include the wiring for it. It has nothing to do with DRLs. You can enable or disable DRL's (via coding) regardless of whether you have a trigger wire(s) or not, or whether you have a euro switch or not.
 

iamgap

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They didnt put euro switches on US Market cars because US Market cars don't come with a rear fog.
Not sure I agree here, but I cannot prove otherwise. I tend to believe it is a combination of potential litigation and saving money.

No

The first trigger wire allows the operation of the parking light position (city lights+rear running lights). The second trigger wire allows the switch to operate the rear fog. Since VW never intended for US cars to have those capabilities, they did not include the wiring for it. It has nothing to do with DRLs. You can enable or disable DRL's (via coding) regardless of whether you have a trigger wire(s) or not, or whether you have a euro switch or not.
This I can fully disagree with, with authority. I installed the switch on my 2010 Golf, and it acted the same as the normal switch before I installed the (first) trigger wire. I didn't install any other trigger wire, as I do not have a rear fog.

Regarding the DRL being mandatory, I don't know which states do, but I have read several posts where the poster's state (not Canadian) required DRL if the car was so equipped. In other words, you couldn't defeat them if they came that way from the factory.


gap
 

kern417

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my cars a little different but the info coming in here is way different from what i've heard, even for mk6.

1.) The switch will work out of the box in the way that yes you can still get your headlights to turn on and off. To get the parking light feature, you'll have to program your instrument panel for Europe/Canada/etc. with vag com. Otherwise the parking function won't work.
2.) A lot of the switches say coming home/leaving home or auto, but you also have to program this through vag com. I'm not sure but I'd assume that if your car didn't come with auto headlights, you might need some additional hardware for it to work.
3.) Yes it enables rear fog when upgrading to led tails. But you need to run a trigger wire to the switch for your fogs to work.
4.) It allows people that have cars that didn't come with fog lights to wire them up, also requires a trigger wire.

so if anyone that actually has one installed and disagrees with that let me know. but that's what i needed for mine (although i drive a mk5). also my euroswitch did nothing for drls. I also had to disable through vagcom.
 

AudiSport4000

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I wanted to run city lights and ditch the DRL's so I got a euro switch. Easy installation and disabling the DRL's via turn signal stalk (halogen) and I was in business. Lub zee euro switch.
 

Aries Pope

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Please excuse my ignorance. I searched for a while, but mainly found build threads or just people saying, "installed my euroswitch today!"

I'm curious as to how this is much different than stock. What are the positions and what do they offer in terms of light sequence?

A couple more dumb questions...

Where's the best place to buy one?

Will it throw a code?

And installing is as easy as pushing in on the stock switch, turning clockwise and pulling out, correct?

Thanks!
Mine is maxed out. Two trigger wires, one for parking light mode, one for rear fog on my LED tails. Auto mode works with the boldsport light sensor to turn the lights on and off automatically.

Involved wiring and coding and fiddling to get it all to work, but now I'm loving it.
 

Sherlock997

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The thing with the DRL's being deactivated only applies to Halogen cars who are running rear fog led tails. This has to with the coding in Vag-Com and not the trigger wire/euro switch. When one recodes byte 18 to 22 they are making the lighting euro spec so the cecm recognizes the other functions of the euro switch with the rewired cecm. This recoding makes the car think it has the wiring for Bi-Xeonon's with led DRL I'm assuming. Because in Europe they dont have halogens since bi-xenon's are required buy law in most of the other countries. If one has LED Bi-Xenon's and does the euro tails w/ rear fog and does the recoding their DRL's should still work.

Disclaimer: Recoding byte 18 to 22 is only for Halogen cars that have LED tails with rear fog!

This is an excellent guide to recoding your car and what trigger wires do what(also great DIY reference for led tail install!):
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4898893-LED-tail-Install-with-or-without-Rear-Fog.
 
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xd-data-ii1

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The thing with the DRL's being deactivated only applies to Halogen cars who are running rear fog led tails. This has to with the coding in Vag-Com and not the trigger wire/euro switch. When one recodes byte 18 to 22 they are making the lighting euro spec so the cecm recognizes the other functions of the euro switch with the rewired cecm. This recoding makes the car think it has the wiring for Bi-Xeonon's with led DRL I'm assuming. Because in Europe they dont have halogens since bi-xenon's are required buy law in most of the other countries. If one has LED Bi-Xenon's and does the euro tails w/ rear fog and does the recoding their DRL's should still work.

Disclaimer: Recoding byte 18 to 22 is only for Halogen cars that have LED tails with rear fog!

This is an excellent guide to recoding your car and what trigger wires do what(also great DIY reference for led tail install!):
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4898893-LED-tail-Install-with-or-without-Rear-Fog.
^ Holy shit that's some nonsense you posted right there.

For starters bi-xenon lights are not only required by law in Europe. DRLs are required now.
Of course Europe has halogen lights. Vast majority are.

DRLs activation or deactivation on halogen have nothing to do with rear fog lights or with the euroswitch.

You code byte 18 to 15 for rear fog light LEDs and halogen fronts.
You are not making halogen light cars think it has bi-xenon lights with the coding. It is row halogen lights.

With a euroswitch you don't have to bother with your rear fog light. You only do if you want the rear fog to work.
You don't code because you have a euroswitch.
You code because you have a rear fog light and don't want it lighting up when in reverse - and also to eliminate startup flicker and the bulb out error depending on the lights you have.

With the euroswitch you use one trigger wire to enable the sidelight bulbs position and another for part of the wiring to enable the rear fog. Then you switch some pin connections between the cecms and you get your rear fog light now working.
 
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kern417

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yeah that was a lot of misinformation. unless you actually have one be careful what you say. or at least triple check it first.

like i said i have a mk5 but i'm speaking from experience. the only thing that requires changing your instrument panel to europe or canada is enabling parking lights. going from halogens to projectors or upgrading to led tails do not. like stated before you guys can even disable drls through your stalk. i know on my car i installed it without vagcom and the middle position (parking lights) did absolutely nothing. i ended up doing the canada one because the europe one changed miles to kilometers on your trip counter. i still have to deal with a 24hr clock and temp readings in celsius though.
 
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