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Your tune isn't so secret anymore....

DBESTGTI1

Go Kart Champion
We just got word today.... on 2009 and newer vehicle, any and all chipped cars will show they are chipped when you run the VIN # through VW's system. I was told VD1 will appear under the warranty key of the vehicle information. I just ran my personal cars vin and it shows "TD1" under the warranty key. I don't know if the V/T was lost in translation but lets find out.... I need a couple people to provide me me vin numbers, say 2 from chipped cars and 2 from stock ECU cars.

Lets confirm or disprove this.
 

Gunkata

Go Kart Champion
HOLY FUCKBALLS... any indication that they would use this to deny warranty work - only if its "from the mod" or?


I'll send you my VIN dude.
 

Halvie

WOOSA
how could they know if your car has been tuned or not...
Assuming he means if you have taken it in for work already. I don't think it would be possible to know if it hasn't been into the dealer. If they could that would be freaky scary.
 

Gunkata

Go Kart Champion
Assuming he means if you have taken it in for work already. I don't think it would be possible to know if it hasn't been into the dealer. If they could that would be freaky scary.
right, but even if you avoid the dealer and then come in from something or warrany work, they may not be able to tell just by scanning it if you have a tune. All the more reason to possibly be honest (with some/most - not all) with the dealers when you go in, who knows though... thankfully, we have a good amount of mod friendly dealers in our area, but i know thats not the case for everyone.
 

CDUBBGTI91

Go Kart Champion
right, but even if you avoid the dealer and then come in from something or warrany work, they may not be able to tell just by scanning it if you have a tune. All the more reason to possibly be honest (with some/most - not all) with the dealers when you go in, who knows though... thankfully, we have a good amount of mod friendly dealers in our area, but i know thats not the case for everyone.
Here in Indiana i'm hoping my VW dealer is mod friendly because the dealership next door BMW does Dinan work. If not I'll just go to Chicago for any warranty work lol. It seems the dealers there are much more willing to help me out. That is where I bought my car anyways :)
 

DBESTGTI1

Go Kart Champion
so far 3 vins show up as chipped....


someone send me an unchipped vin, and chipped vin from a car that HAS NOT been to a dealer since chipping it.
 

allset

Go Kart Champion
glad my VW dealer is my APR tuner, although prob doesnt matter if VWOA wants to deny warranty claims.
 

RickA1

Ready to race!
Still don't understand how that info gets to VW's database. All I've read is that the tune (At least APR Stage 1) cannot be detected easily? So how just by having been at the dealer they would know if a car has been tuned?
 

daschrier1

Passed Driver's Ed
You can thank all of the unethical people that go back to stock, hide tunes, etc, when going in for warranty claims after something breaks.

Anyone that thinks that a tune can truly be invisible was kidding themselves. The dealer may not have the capabilites to find a tune, but headquarters most certainly could.

I'm surprised that VW has never really jumped into the authorized mods arena, like Nismo, Mopar, etc. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would pay the premium for an authorized tune than a pure aftermarket tune like APR, Revo, etc.
 

rs999

Go Kart Champion
Still don't understand how that info gets to VW's database. All I've read is that the tune (At least APR Stage 1) cannot be detected easily? So how just by having been at the dealer they would know if a car has been tuned?
I don't think that is the way they are checking. Most likely they are comparing size of files or integrity of the file (check sum). Then flagging mismatches as modded.

Or VW could be doing something as simple as space on ECU. I mean the aftermarket programs have to be a little larger than stock program so just comparing stock to modded remaining space is an easy check.

Just my opinion I could totally be wrong here. :bellyroll:
 
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