I've always gotten different answers so I just wanted to see what everyone else is doing. When you're at a long line drive thru or outside your friend's house waiting for them to come out, do you turn your car off or just leave the engine running? I ask this because some articles have said if you expect to idle for more than 20 seconds turn your car off but wouldn't that be a bad idea since I see a lot of people saying "making short trips is bad for our cars" but if you leave the car on it technically doesn't make it a short trip? (not sure if that made sense to everyone but made sense in my mind)