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Old 07-23-2018, 01:21 AM   #1
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ARM vs. Neuspeed FMIC. What's the difference?

Other than ARM Motorsports costing much less, is there a difference between these two company's front mounted intercooler? I've had nothing but good experiences with Neuspeed for my exhaust, wheels, turbo outlet pipe and brake lines but the cost difference is significant. A bit of searching the forum found some posts by people who seem happy with their ARM items. Is there any reason to spend more money on the Neuspeed FMIC?
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Searched a little more and found this thread: https://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showt...RM+Motorsports
The ARM core is probably different and the ARM quality of workmanship is a little lower. Seems like the opinion is that the ARM FMIC is fine for a daily driver, but for the track, go Neuspeed or another FMIC all together. I track mine, so if not Neuspeed, any other recommendations?
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I have been running the ARM fmic for a little under a year now. I agree with the consensus that it is ok for daily driving. Living in the south however it's lack of size/cooling capability has shown over the last 2 weeks with it being 110+ outside, with my IATs staying high.

I plan on adding WMI to my setup sometime in the next 6 months to aid in keeping the car cool next year.
I'd say stick with stock location. I also plan on getting Integrated Engineering's FDS Intercooler next year. I have their intake and intake manifold, and the quality is unmatched.

https://www.performancebyie.com/ie-f...ntercooler-kit
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Old 07-23-2018, 11:14 AM   #4
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I have been running the ARM fmic for a little under a year now. I agree with the consensus that it is ok for daily driving. Living in the south however it's lack of size/cooling capability has shown over the last 2 weeks with it being 110+ outside, with my IATs staying high.

I plan on adding WMI to my setup sometime in the next 6 months to aid in keeping the car cool next year.
I'd say stick with stock location. I also plan on getting Integrated Engineering's FDS Intercooler next year. I have their intake and intake manifold, and the quality is unmatched.

https://www.performancebyie.com/ie-f...ntercooler-kit
I also plan on getting IEs intercooler soon also, but that's only because i'm planning on going BT. If you're staying on the stock turbo, a single jet WMI system post intercooler and an ARM/Neuspeed frontmount should do the trick
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I am on the fence still about going to a KO4, but if I did it would most likely be the APR OEM kit with their downpipe since I already have their intake, ECU and TCU software. Their IC is even pricier than Neuspeed but on par with IE's.

Is there a quick answer to the question of stock location vs. front-mounted?
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I am on the fence still about going to a KO4, but if I did it would most likely be the APR OEM kit with their downpipe since I already have their intake, ECU and TCU software. Their IC is even pricier than Neuspeed but on par with IE's.

Is there a quick answer to the question of stock location vs. front-mounted?
I know that despite my desire to stay stage 2, I'll eventually go BT. Arm + WMI is plenty for a street setup probably even light track duty.

Fmic have their pros and cons.

Better air flow, better positioning. I never understood the sandwich setup on VWs especially coming from a Evo X before this. However from my understanding the radiator still receives less flow even with the stock ic removed when running a fmic. Core size is also limited.

I'm assuming that since you live in LA you see a fair amount of stop and go traffic. So I'd say a larger stock location, especially with your potential K04 plans.

I'm sure someone more knowledgeable on the subject than me will chime in.
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