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Old 03-04-2012, 06:06 PM   #43
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Can anyone confirm the association between VWR and VW themselves?
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #44
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DG = 15mm drop and nice ride or
VWR = 20-25mm drop and ?? ride?
My own thoughts.

I suspect DG will ride little better, but if VWR is right and their springs
are just 15 - 20 % stiffer it's not that much.

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:33 PM   #45
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Driver Gear Sport Spring Specs

Driver Gear Sport Spring Specs according to TUV certificate for 4 door DSG Golf GTI. The 4 door DSG VW DG Springs part codes are on the far right columns of each table. Looking at the prev. pic of the VWR springs ... they don't look too much lower at the front and quite a bit lower at the rear. With one or more occupants in the VWR springs, you'd well and truly have reverse rake with the rear lower than the front imo.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:35 PM   #46
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VW Racing.co.uk (VWR) Spring Specs:

VWRacing.co.uk sport spring spec as quoted directly from VWRacing.co.uk. Specs for springs are similar:

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The front spec is:
  • Lowering range 20-25mm
  • Spring rate 31N/mm
  • Wire diameter is 13.25 mm
  • Coils 6
  • I will have to find out what % uprated they are
  • It is a linear rate, however the spring is a barrel type spring so they end forms come slightly in.
  • These will fit direct on to the standard dampers and don’t require anything else.

The rear spec is:
  • Lowering range 20mm
  • Spring rate 33N/mm
  • Wire diameter 12.5mm
  • Coils 8.5
  • I will have to find out what % uprated they are
  • It is a linear rate, however the spring is a barrel type spring so they end forms come slightly in.
  • These will fit direct on to the standard dampers and don’t require anything else
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:18 PM   #47
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Thank you kindly WJ and Bruce! (I was hopeful you would chime in on the thread!)

So, I take it they are very similar and the VWR brings the back end down a bit or so (not raked).
It's just kind of weird that DG has so many different PN#'s and only 2 for the VWR!
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:05 AM   #48
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I was told by a dealer that the dg springs were not for the mk6 gti and he wouldn't sell them to me.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:15 AM   #49
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I was told by a dealer that the dg springs were not for the mk6 gti and he wouldn't sell them to me.
That's a good thing, because you can get them cheaper from Keffer.
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:10 AM   #50
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Rear Spring Length: 308mm -v- 313mm

The difference in untensioned spring length for the rear of the VW Driver Gear Sport springs 2 door (308mm) -v- 4 door (313mm) may almost cover the difference in height between the rear of the VW Driver Gear Sport and rear of VWR springs (reverse rake), based on very few pics supplied. The OE Golf springs are designed to sag up to 20mm over an extended period of time ... so going up to 20mm lower with Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) would be permissible. Additionally ... the OE Golf GTI springs are most probably designed to perform optimally with about 200kg on board where that lower speed compression fidgeting, busy, uneasy and restless OE Spring ride settles down a bit. For a single passenger only (80kg), the DG Sport springs may be closer to what Volkswagen ideally tuned the Golf GTI for in terms of ride/comfort compliance. The description of VWR as suggested to me are the same as the DG Sport springs ... both made by Eibach, both linear & both barrel inwards for top & bottom dead end coils.
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That's a good thing, because you can get them cheaper from Keffer.
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:26 AM   #52
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I guess my final question to the experts here is,
The VWR claim 20-25mm drop and they are UK springs.
As I understand it (could be wrong) the Euro and UK stock GTI springs are shorter than the GTI springs in the US due to bumper height regulations.
I see lots of springs advertized with ** drop but when installed they are actually lower.
I'd like the 20mm drop but not sure if I can accept anything more than 25mm after they settled.
Can anyone confirm the actual drop on a US spec vehicle?
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Old 03-07-2012, 02:59 PM   #54
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I guess my final question to the experts here is,
The VWR claim 20-25mm drop and they are UK springs.
As I understand it (could be wrong) the Euro and UK stock GTI springs are shorter than the GTI springs in the US due to bumper height regulations.
I see lots of springs advertized with ** drop but when installed they are actually lower.
I'd like the 20mm drop but not sure if I can accept anything more than 25mm after they settled.
Can anyone confirm the actual drop on a US spec vehicle?
I can confirm they will not be too much of a drop. It's a pretty light drop and will not be so low that the car bounces all over the road and goes beyond what the factory dampers were designed to handel.
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I can confirm they will not be too much of a drop.
Thanks, but I'd like an actual number for U.S. vehicles.
Is "not be to much" 1" or 1.5" or 2"?
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