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flight1us

Ready to race!
just received my k04 turbo from HPA motorsports hope to install soon. has anyone had good experience with the Eurodyne Maestro suite i was thinking of maybe purchasing that to replace the APR tune my car came with.
 

KFahey

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just received my k04 turbo from HPA motorsports hope to install soon. has anyone had good experience with the Eurodyne Maestro suite i was thinking of maybe purchasing that to replace the APR tune my car came with.
I have HPAs turbo with an APR tune and its fantastic.

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flight1us

Ready to race!
im sure, my issue is the more i look at apr and their tuning scheme it appears more like a monopoly no offense.

future upgrades i.e big turbo setups your kind of backed in a corner so to speak where your forced to go with their kit versus a custom tune setup. :iono:


I have HPAs turbo with an APR tune and its fantastic.

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KFahey

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im sure, my issue is the more i look at apr and their tuning scheme it appears more like a monopoly no offense.



future upgrades i.e big turbo setups your kind of backed in a corner so to speak where your forced to go with their kit versus a custom tune setup. :iono:
Sure, I hear ya. I have no plans anytime soon for BT but i figured I'd let you know that APRs software runs fine with HPAs turbo.

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flight1us

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Sure, I hear ya. I have no plans anytime soon for BT but i figured I'd let you know that APRs software runs fine with HPAs turbo.

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still a consideration i appreciate the feedback
 

zef

Drag Racing Champion
Another APR KO4 guy here... I've gone the "custom tune" route and ended up going back to APR. It's a fantastic tune. Not sure why you'd think is a scheme--they put a significant amount of R&D into their software. It's not really a monopoly either since there is like a dozen other tuning companies for this platform. And when you're ready to go BT just get their GTX kit. Unless you're building your motor and going for 500+hp with auxiliary fueling/meth, the APR GTX kit will likely be just as fast as any other BT kit on a stock motor. I have a friend who's custom tuned by UM on his GTX2867R and lost to an APR stage 3 car. He also spent 2x on his "custom tuned" build than if he just got the stage 3 kit installed.

edit - quick clarification, I have APR KO4 software but on a port & polished HPA turbo with a forge WGA.
 

flight1us

Ready to race!
Another APR KO4 guy here... I've gone the "custom tune" route and ended up going back to APR. It's a fantastic tune. Not sure why you'd think is a scheme--they put a significant amount of R&D into their software. It's not really a monopoly either since there is like a dozen other tuning companies for this platform. And when you're ready to go BT just get their GTX kit. Unless you're building your motor and going for 500+hp with auxiliary fueling/meth, the APR GTX kit will likely be just as fast as any other BT kit on a stock motor. I have a friend who's custom tuned by UM on his GTX2867R and lost to an APR stage 3 car. He also spent 2x on his "custom tuned" build than if he just got the stage 3 kit installed.

edit - quick clarification, I have APR KO4 software but on a port & polished HPA turbo with a forge WGA.


Maybe i chose the wrong set of words it was more from frustration, i totally agree APR does spend a fair amount of time with R&D especially for our vehicles since the MQB platform has been around not many still support the mk6 platform as they do.

what i found frustration with was i am currently running "stage 2" with a DSG tune and i recently received the "P0299 DTC underboost" that turned out to be because of wastegate failure. Instead of spending 1800+ in parts and labor i went with a k04 kit from HPA yet to be installed :D i kind of wish they offered an option similar to the Eurodyne Maestro suite where you can switch the maps accordingly i.e when its emissions testing time;)
 

93serprise

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i kind of wish they offered an option similar to the Eurodyne Maestro suite where you can switch the maps accordingly i.e when its emissions testing time;)


I really wish APR would sell a device so that I didn't have to drive back up to Dallas to load my K04 tune from them. I started off with an APR tune when I first went K04, and then swapped over to Unitronic, and then over to Stratified. I often swap between my tunes just to feel the difference. If I could swap over to my APR tune that I paid for from my driveway then I would be immensely happy :) Going BT soon enough though. Already have all the hardware and tune, just need to install everything.
 

DASVDUB

Drag Racing Champion
I really wish APR would sell a device so that I didn't have to drive back up to Dallas to load my K04 tune from them. I started off with an APR tune when I first went K04, and then swapped over to Unitronic, and then over to Stratified. I often swap between my tunes just to feel the difference. If I could swap over to my APR tune that I paid for from my driveway then I would be immensely happy :) Going BT soon enough though. Already have all the hardware and tune, just need to install everything.



Buy the APR dongle. Done


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DallasDub94

Go Kart Newbie
Maybe i chose the wrong set of words it was more from frustration, i totally agree APR does spend a fair amount of time with R&D especially for our vehicles since the MQB platform has been around not many still support the mk6 platform as they do.

what i found frustration with was i am currently running "stage 2" with a DSG tune and i recently received the "P0299 DTC underboost" that turned out to be because of wastegate failure. Instead of spending 1800+ in parts and labor i went with a k04 kit from HPA yet to be installed :D i kind of wish they offered an option similar to the Eurodyne Maestro suite where you can switch the maps accordingly i.e when its emissions testing time;)


1800... To fix the wastegate wtf. The shop I go to charges me like ~500 for turbo installs. And a new wastegate actuator isn't much, shoot I have a spare one in my closet.
Or you could have got another low mileage turbo for 2-300 if the wastegate (flapper) door was busted.

1800 that's just nuts
 

Allchokedup

Autocross Champion
Maybe i chose the wrong set of words it was more from frustration, i totally agree APR does spend a fair amount of time with R&D especially for our vehicles since the MQB platform has been around not many still support the mk6 platform as they do.

what i found frustration with was i am currently running "stage 2" with a DSG tune and i recently received the "P0299 DTC underboost" that turned out to be because of wastegate failure. Instead of spending 1800+ in parts and labor i went with a k04 kit from HPA yet to be installed :D i kind of wish they offered an option similar to the Eurodyne Maestro suite where you can switch the maps accordingly i.e when its emissions testing time;)

APR does have tune selections. You can have valet, 91,93, and stock or 100. I plan to go wm on my ko4 and will get all maps. Currently run 93 and it's great, dont have anything to compare it to but I have ran down some cars I didnt think I could.
I dont think you have to have the dongle for tune switching.
 

flight1us

Ready to race!
Thought i would ask this here. i will hopefully be getting the HPA k04 installed this weekend, but i wanted to know if i could drive the vehicle as long as i stay out of boost on an APR Stage 2+ MAP
 

93serprise

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Buy the APR dongle. Done


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I have the apr dongle but that only lets me switch maps if they are already installed. I can’t use it to load my APR k04 tune due to me being on a Stratified tune currently. I would have to drive 110 miles to Dallas to have an APR shop put the tunes back onto my ECU for a shop fee. Not ideal at all :( I can currently switch between Unitronic and Stratified whenever I want using their accessport devices.


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93serprise

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In a nutshell, if you overwrite your APR tune with a competitors tune then you have to go to a shop just to flash back to APR. Then you can use the dongle to change maps....kinda sucks really.


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