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Old 06-14-2018, 06:31 PM   #1
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DSG Slipping

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My dsg is doing some hesitations in 4th gear at about 3000k rpm.
In first instance i tought was my exhaust leaking i checked all the exhaust but was working well, no leaks ( i put the resonator back (//just in case).
Then i changed the DV i remove the dv+ and put another dv but still slipping. (Then i get back to the dv+)
Then i did a dsg maintance put ravenol oil and i did a clutch learining, but still sipping.

I was thinking to get back to stage 1 eurodyne.
Or maybe stock.

If this not solve the issue i was thinking to do a tcu tune to increment the clamping force.

What do you thinks guys about this, somebody can solve a similar issue like this?.

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Old 06-14-2018, 06:41 PM   #2
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You would have to be heavily tuned to cause a stock DSG to slip in 4th gear at 3k rpm. Also, a slipping DSG would cause rpms to rapidly increase for a second or two without acceleration.

Hesitation can be associated with spark plugs and coil packs.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:45 AM   #3
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You would have to be heavily tuned to cause a stock DSG to slip in 4th gear at 3k rpm. Also, a slipping DSG would cause rpms to rapidly increase for a second or two without acceleration.

Hesitation can be associated with spark plugs and coil packs.
It feels like the rpms starts to have some hesitation and climb until reach 4000k rpm then the car pulls normally.

Also the car did this sometimes,when you press the pedal full in 4 gear.

It is worth mentioning , the only fault vcds shows is a evap Incorrect purge flow error p0441 ( mechanic told me this is very commmon and "normal")

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Old 06-15-2018, 01:07 PM   #4
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It feels like the rpms starts to have some hesitation and climb until reach 4000k rpm then the car pulls normally.

Also the car did this sometimes,when you press the pedal full in 4 gear.

It is worth mentioning , the only fault vcds shows is a evap Incorrect purge flow error p0441 ( mechanic told me this is very commmon and "normal")
Yeah I agree that it's a bit misguided to fault the DSG for this. It is either the tune or something engine hardware related. Hesitations are not the same as "slipping."

Honestly I'd suspect the PCV valve (can cause strange driveability issues, and you definitely want to stay on top of it to avoid rear main seal leaks, ask me how I know).

Edit: You also gotta run some logs to really be sure. Could be that the tune is a little too close to the edge and that the car is pulling some timing out. Or could be spark plugs as mentioned above. Def need more data.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:10 PM   #5
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Are you stage 2? Mine started doing false-neutrals and after getting a DSG tune that's no longer a problem.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:13 PM   #6
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Are you stage 2? Mine started doing false-neutrals and after getting a DSG tune that's no longer a problem.
False neutral should feel pretty abrupt, no? Moreso than a "hesitation" I'd think.
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False neutral should feel pretty abrupt, no? Moreso than a "hesitation" I'd think.
For sure. I had some hesitation issues as well. In the beginning it was hesitation from a stop then it got worse and started doing the false-neutral at about 4000 rpm.
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:16 PM   #8
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Are you stage 2? Mine started doing false-neutrals and after getting a DSG tune that's no longer a problem.
Yes dude, stage 2 Eurodyne.
Monday i will getback to stage 1 and i will check again.

If the problem does not solved i will change the PCV and replace valve cover gasket.

If this not solve the issue i will get back the car to stock.

DP: mine is different to false-netrauls, is like the car starts to climb until reach 4000 rpm.

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Old 06-15-2018, 10:50 PM   #9
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Yes dude, stage 2 Eurodyne.
Monday i will getback to stage 1 and i will check again.

If the problem does not solved i will change the PCV and replace valve cover gasket.

If this not solve the issue i will get back the car to stock.

DP: mine is different to false-netrauls, is like the car starts to climb until reach 4000 rpm.
There is no valve cover gasket, it uses an anaerobic rtv-like sealant. The "valve cover" is actually the bearing cam girdle so without locking timing up the cams will be exposed and can come out of time when removing it.
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I getback to stage 1 and the issue still there.
I am gonna take off the downpipe and i will put the original one.
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Why don't you swap out coil packs and spark plugs first? What codes is it throwing?
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Why don't you swap out coil packs and spark plugs first? What codes is it throwing?
Is throwing just P0441.
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Per this link: https://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89688

Have you checked the "purge solenoid"?
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Best post from that thread above... since you just did a downpipe install...


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Sounds like an exhaust leak. Check the welds and check the bolts on the turbo to make sure they are tight. Did you replace the exhaust gasket on the turbo when you did the downpipe? Maybe the Gasket failed. Ive over filled my gas tank many times to the point where its overflowing onto the paint and never got a cel from that.
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