After this I really do not know if I want to give it another try..
My mom was helping me buy my first new car and I had found the exact one I was looking about 120 miles out of town. I figure it would be better to go to a dealership that had the exact one instead of getting screwed having an in town one order me one. Boy was I wrong as it does not matter what you do they will try to screw you.
Things started out as well as they could considering I am going shopping with my mom and she hates VW off the bat. We go on a test drive and the guy is new or something and honestly does not know much about the car at all. I know more than him and he sneaks inside a few times to ask his boss a million questions. So I show him the quote from zag for 23.4k..He is new so he has to go to his boss can't even deal numbers it seems.. He comes back out with 25.3k Out the Door I was like great, pretty much what I was expecting and glad I got a good price without having to mess around.
Well for some fucking reason it takes them forever(2 hours) to see if we can finance it. What a joke me and my mom have 800 credit scores, I can't do it alone because I am a student. This is where they start to lie.. For one thing on the dealer website it said 0.00 percent rate for so many months. They said "I don't know where you saw that" I let it go; however, on the damn zag print out it says 3.9 percent. FI comes back with 5.9 percent. Sorry I am getting ahead of myself. Before this even starts they put us in a room with the FI and ask us if they can record the deal. WTF I feel this is rude and if I had not wanted the car I would have walked out but I was to dazed and confused by my want of the GTI.
The next thing she does it bust out this paper saying these are your "payment choices" The price went from 300.00 to 414 a month. She is trying to somehow include fucking extended warranty insurance part of the finanace process. Its full of shit like "Paint sealent" and "Scotch gaurd for your seats" Im a fucking auto detailer fancy word for waxing the car and armor all. We call BS, we dont want it. Then they drill us on why we think it is BS and wont let us just decline it until they got an answer.
Next thing she busts out is a paper for us to sign saying we will not sue the dealership. I read it of course and the best I could make of it was that we wouldn't sue if we felt like we got ripped. The lady wouldn't really say anything beyond we waive the right to sue. Thanks for explaining that one.. Turns out it wavies 100% right to sue. If the car blew up as they hand me the keys I can't sue them. Like a dumbass we sign and go on..
Well here is what fucking killed it. They were doing a "Packed Payment"
So after all this crap we were going to put down 5k and thats when she said.. Ok so 5k down and 22k financed. Wait.. Thats fucking 27k?!?!?! not 25k So my mom asked to see the paper work which they had not even printed out and she delayed and just kept saying 22k not 27k. So after my mom got mad she printed it out. It had all these bullshit fees on it brining it up to 27K plus some finance fees. Cars direct has the same fucking car for 26k OTD and they are know for OK prices. So we say never mind 27k was not the agreed price you didnt even bother showing us the fee's.
The FI runs and gets the sales boss and he says we are insane thinking we are going to get it less than 27k and takes off a whole fucking 80 bucks brining it down to an even 27k. Then he starts acting crazy and says we might want to consider other cars because VW is out of our price range. Then he just starts acting crazy kinda pissy..It is like you are super mad but you have to push it to the back. Then he points out where he wrong down 25k OTD but under OTD it says in small print /w fees ... WTF?!?!? What kind of OUT THE DOOR FUCKING PRICE IS THAT?
The worst part is they recorded this and will use this shit for training..UGH
My mom was helping me buy my first new car and I had found the exact one I was looking about 120 miles out of town. I figure it would be better to go to a dealership that had the exact one instead of getting screwed having an in town one order me one. Boy was I wrong as it does not matter what you do they will try to screw you.
Things started out as well as they could considering I am going shopping with my mom and she hates VW off the bat. We go on a test drive and the guy is new or something and honestly does not know much about the car at all. I know more than him and he sneaks inside a few times to ask his boss a million questions. So I show him the quote from zag for 23.4k..He is new so he has to go to his boss can't even deal numbers it seems.. He comes back out with 25.3k Out the Door I was like great, pretty much what I was expecting and glad I got a good price without having to mess around.
Well for some fucking reason it takes them forever(2 hours) to see if we can finance it. What a joke me and my mom have 800 credit scores, I can't do it alone because I am a student. This is where they start to lie.. For one thing on the dealer website it said 0.00 percent rate for so many months. They said "I don't know where you saw that" I let it go; however, on the damn zag print out it says 3.9 percent. FI comes back with 5.9 percent. Sorry I am getting ahead of myself. Before this even starts they put us in a room with the FI and ask us if they can record the deal. WTF I feel this is rude and if I had not wanted the car I would have walked out but I was to dazed and confused by my want of the GTI.
The next thing she does it bust out this paper saying these are your "payment choices" The price went from 300.00 to 414 a month. She is trying to somehow include fucking extended warranty insurance part of the finanace process. Its full of shit like "Paint sealent" and "Scotch gaurd for your seats" Im a fucking auto detailer fancy word for waxing the car and armor all. We call BS, we dont want it. Then they drill us on why we think it is BS and wont let us just decline it until they got an answer.
Next thing she busts out is a paper for us to sign saying we will not sue the dealership. I read it of course and the best I could make of it was that we wouldn't sue if we felt like we got ripped. The lady wouldn't really say anything beyond we waive the right to sue. Thanks for explaining that one.. Turns out it wavies 100% right to sue. If the car blew up as they hand me the keys I can't sue them. Like a dumbass we sign and go on..
Well here is what fucking killed it. They were doing a "Packed Payment"
Beware of the "Packed Payment!" If you let the car dealer arrange the car financing on your purchase, and you negotiate the deal based on a payment then very likely the payment that you agree to will be much higher then is needed to cover the cost of the vehicle.
So after all this crap we were going to put down 5k and thats when she said.. Ok so 5k down and 22k financed. Wait.. Thats fucking 27k?!?!?! not 25k So my mom asked to see the paper work which they had not even printed out and she delayed and just kept saying 22k not 27k. So after my mom got mad she printed it out. It had all these bullshit fees on it brining it up to 27K plus some finance fees. Cars direct has the same fucking car for 26k OTD and they are know for OK prices. So we say never mind 27k was not the agreed price you didnt even bother showing us the fee's.
The FI runs and gets the sales boss and he says we are insane thinking we are going to get it less than 27k and takes off a whole fucking 80 bucks brining it down to an even 27k. Then he starts acting crazy and says we might want to consider other cars because VW is out of our price range. Then he just starts acting crazy kinda pissy..It is like you are super mad but you have to push it to the back. Then he points out where he wrong down 25k OTD but under OTD it says in small print /w fees ... WTF?!?!? What kind of OUT THE DOOR FUCKING PRICE IS THAT?
The worst part is they recorded this and will use this shit for training..UGH