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2013 Genesis 2.0T Performance figures
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maxtdi
Go Kart Champion
And to add to that i starts at 24,250 and includes features the GTI doesn't have at that price.
Steering wheel controls
Auto Headlights
Pick any model and compare side by side with GTI and the Genesis has more features and a lower price.
It's def a car to be cross shopped when looking for performance under 30k.
troyguitar
Go Kart Champion
You don't compare v6 to v6 you compare by price. That 3.8 has to compete with the 5.0 mustang (and fails IMO).
maxtdi
Go Kart Champion
Genesis starts at 28,750 with the 3.8 comes with the brembos, lsd, bluetooth, and 19" wheels.
2013 Mustang V6 premium with performance package, is 29,685 and it doesn't have brembos or LSD.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests..._camaro_rs_vs_2010_challenger_se/viewall.html
Motortrend disagreed before the car got a better interior/exterior and engine.
Apples to oranges, modified GTI vs stock old engined Genesis. The new one has +50 HP and +30 torque.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests..._camaro_rs_vs_2010_challenger_se/viewall.html
RacingManiac
Drag Race Newbie
The 2.0T Genesis is supposed to compare with the V6 Mustang. Similar power and MPG....dimensionally they arent that different neither....
maxtdi
Go Kart Champion
You can't be serious :laugh: And the V6 is supposed to compare to the V8? That doesn't make any sense.
Skeptix
Ready to race!
gen 2.0t vs the focus st? IDK, Ford doesn't really have anything on the field of the gen 2.0t.
I work for Hyundai, so I'm biased. Though I will admit I could have stolen a last generation coupe, but hell no. The new ones though, I'm kinda falling for them fast. 3.8 Rspec, potentially supercharge it... nomnomnom.
I work for Hyundai, so I'm biased. Though I will admit I could have stolen a last generation coupe, but hell no. The new ones though, I'm kinda falling for them fast. 3.8 Rspec, potentially supercharge it... nomnomnom.
girlpowermk6
Passed Driver's Ed
When you get a flat, try to find your spare in many Hyundai, all you find is only a sealant and compressor! Pray to god that you didn't demage your sidewall.
They won't listed on window sticker, and sales person wont' tell.
They won't listed on window sticker, and sales person wont' tell.
RacingManiac
Drag Race Newbie
What's there to be surprised about? The 4 is rated at 21/31, V6 stang is 19/31. The biggest dimensional difference is overall length, where the stang is longer by 6". Width, height, track, curb weight are all in the same ballpark. Genesis is actually 4" longer in wheelbase.....
If you will crossshop a fwd hothatch with a 2door sports coupe, you can be sure as hell you'll cross shop the mustang....
V8 maybe not so much, since a 5.0 will destroy a 3.8....
maxtdi
Go Kart Champion
Because the V6 Genesis is priced the same as the mustang when equally equipped and its faster and comes with LSD, and better brakes. Yet you insist on comparing it with the turbo 4.
To compare, because I/L is frequently VERY slow in their figures for all cars...
ALL from Motor Trend
Mustang V8 Track Pack - From $33,490 - 412 hp - 17/26 mpg
0-60 - 4.4 sec.
1/4 mile - 12.7 sec. @ 111.6 mph
60-0 - 108 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.96 g
MT Figure-8 - 24.9 sec. @ 0.76 g (avg.)
'13 Gen Coupe 3.8 Track - From $33,000 - 348 hp - 18/27 mpg
0-60 - 5.2 sec.
1/4 mile - 13.9 sec. @ 102.2 mph
60-0 - 112 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.91 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.5 sec. @ 0.74 g (avg.)
Ford Mustang V6 Performance Pack - From $24,990 - 305 hp - 21/30 mpg
0-60 - 5.3 sec.
1/4 mile - 13.9 sec. @ 100.1 mph
60-0 - 110 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.95 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.4 sec. @ 0.70 g (avg.)
'13 Gen Coupe 2.0T R-Spec- From $26,500 - 274 hp - 21/30 mpg
0-60 - 5.7 sec.
1/4 mile - 14.2 sec. @ 98.4 mph
60-0 - 111 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.97 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.5 sec. @ 0.69 g (avg.)
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GTI DSG - From $25,095 - 200 hp - 24/33 mpg
0-60 - 5.8 sec.
1/4 mile - 14.5 sec. @ 96.7 mph
60-0 - 113 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.91 g
MT Figure-8 - 26.5 sec. @ 0.67 g (avg).
** Keep in mind the two Gen Coupes AND two Mustangs tested here were the highest performance variants for each engine option. What that means is they all four had 19" summer tires AND Brembo brakes. The GTI had 18" summer tires and VW-Spec brakes, and an Automatic too...
I think our little GTI does quite well all things considered against a Gen Coupe 2.0T...
And the Gen Coupe still doesn't seem to do that well at any level compared to what a Mustang does for thousands less...
ALL from Motor Trend
Mustang V8 Track Pack - From $33,490 - 412 hp - 17/26 mpg
0-60 - 4.4 sec.
1/4 mile - 12.7 sec. @ 111.6 mph
60-0 - 108 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.96 g
MT Figure-8 - 24.9 sec. @ 0.76 g (avg.)
'13 Gen Coupe 3.8 Track - From $33,000 - 348 hp - 18/27 mpg
0-60 - 5.2 sec.
1/4 mile - 13.9 sec. @ 102.2 mph
60-0 - 112 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.91 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.5 sec. @ 0.74 g (avg.)
Ford Mustang V6 Performance Pack - From $24,990 - 305 hp - 21/30 mpg
0-60 - 5.3 sec.
1/4 mile - 13.9 sec. @ 100.1 mph
60-0 - 110 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.95 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.4 sec. @ 0.70 g (avg.)
'13 Gen Coupe 2.0T R-Spec- From $26,500 - 274 hp - 21/30 mpg
0-60 - 5.7 sec.
1/4 mile - 14.2 sec. @ 98.4 mph
60-0 - 111 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.97 g
MT Figure-8 - 25.5 sec. @ 0.69 g (avg.)
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GTI DSG - From $25,095 - 200 hp - 24/33 mpg
0-60 - 5.8 sec.
1/4 mile - 14.5 sec. @ 96.7 mph
60-0 - 113 ft.
Lateral Accel - 0.91 g
MT Figure-8 - 26.5 sec. @ 0.67 g (avg).
** Keep in mind the two Gen Coupes AND two Mustangs tested here were the highest performance variants for each engine option. What that means is they all four had 19" summer tires AND Brembo brakes. The GTI had 18" summer tires and VW-Spec brakes, and an Automatic too...
I think our little GTI does quite well all things considered against a Gen Coupe 2.0T...
And the Gen Coupe still doesn't seem to do that well at any level compared to what a Mustang does for thousands less...
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The next gen global Mustang due out in 2014/2015 is rumored to have a 4-cylidner Ecoboost motor in the base form.
Conservative Estimates;
Appx. 240-260hp 2.0L Ecoboost Mustang
Appx. 320hp 3.7L V6 Mustang
Appx. 420hp 5.0L V8 Mustang
Optimistic, but possible, Estimates;
Appx. 240-260hp 2.0L Ecoboost Mustang
Appx. 340-360hp 3.5L Ecoboost V6 Mustang
Appx. 450hp 5.0L V8 Mustang (motor from the Boss 302 to become base GT motor)
I could see them reasonably shooting for a 250hp 2.0T, 350hp 3.5T, and 450hp 5.0L V8.
And in any event, I have heard it is going to be smaller and lighter too...
The Mustang is ONLY going to get better and faster from here on out. And it is already quite good and very fast.
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Do you read??
Mustang V6 Performance Pack - From $24,990 - 305hp - 0-60 in 5.3
Gen Coupe 2.0T R-Spec - From $26,500 - 274hp - 0-60 in 5.7
Gen Coupe 3.8 R-Spec - From $28,750 - 348hp - 0-60 in 5.2
The Mustang V6 is $1,500 less than a Gen Coupe 2.0T AND performs better...
The Mustang V6 is nearly $4,000 less than a Gen Coupe 3.8 and performs nearly identical...
And Mustang V8 is priced similarly to a Gen Coupe 3.8 but of course performs MUCH better in every way...
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