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Old 05-21-2011, 10:40 AM   #29
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I hate when people get into this low end torque discussion, it is pretty bad info in a lot of cases

Stage 2 makes more torque, but it has a more linear curve on the low end than stage 1...stage 1 has a mini torque spike which is what will make you lose traction in 1st gear...stage 2 will lose traction from the massive amount of torque from maxing out the tiny little turbo
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:28 AM   #30
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Because the cat you want to remove is in the mouth of the DP right at the turbo outlet. That's your big restriction.
you can gut the cats if its that close to the mouth of the DP.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:42 AM   #31
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you can gut the cats if its that close to the mouth of the DP.
You could, but the piping is still restrictive as hell. Ill post a picture.

Also, i was one of the guys who used to claim stage 2 loosed low end torque. That was completely fixed in v1.2
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Damn it i miss my stage 2 so much..
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:11 PM   #33
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Old 05-21-2011, 03:12 PM   #34
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Stage II is sweet, but this being my first FWD car, I must say--there's a lot more power and torque than this car knows what to do with. No torque steer, but lots of ESP gremlins doing their magic and trying their mightiest to mitigate wheelspin. Looking forward to a K04.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:11 PM   #35
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Stage II is sweet, but this being my first FWD car, I must say--there's a lot more power and torque than this car knows what to do with. No torque steer, but lots of ESP gremlins doing their magic and trying their mightiest to mitigate wheelspin. Looking forward to a K04.
thats whats so nice, 274 hp and barely any torque steer, sometimes a slight jog to the left, but thats it.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:14 PM   #36
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Stage II is sweet, but this being my first FWD car, I must say--there's a lot more power and torque than this car knows what to do with. No torque steer, but lots of ESP gremlins doing their magic and trying their mightiest to mitigate wheelspin. Looking forward to a K04.

I made 246.69WHP and 289.92WTQ with V1.1 APR Stage 2Tune last fall. That's 283.70HP and 333TQ at the Crank.

Need to get mine dyno again with V1.2 Stage 2 Tune.
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Old 05-23-2011, 02:31 PM   #37
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I made 246.69WHP and 289.92WTQ with V1.1 APR Stage 2Tune last fall. That's 283.70HP and 333TQ at the Crank.

Need to get mine dyno again with V1.2 Stage 2 Tune.
be sure to post here when u do. I also need to get dyno'd on v2
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be sure to post here when u do. I also need to get dyno'd on v2
Yea, V1.2 does make more power than the V1.1.

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v1.1 Stage 2 tune.

23 dyno runs in various gears, as well as 93 and 100 octane fuel and tunes (unleaded 100octane Sunoco 260 GT was used).

The following dyno runs were conducted on a Dynojet Dyno at about 53F and 22% Humidity.

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93 Octane tune: 247.86whp and 275.72wtq (I still need to call the dyno shop and get them to send me the file with the Torque curve since it was left off accidentally while printing the graph)

details

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100 Octane tune: average of 262whp and 312wtq

details 1
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX3AuMxWYyo


video of 6th gear pull on 93 octane. top speed 169mph. 242whp and 284wtq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8FybCqL5zM

100 octane valet mode dyno run. 41.7whp and 95.8wtq:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEkTKOlz1DE
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23 dyno runs in various gears, as well as 93 and 100 octane fuel and tunes (unleaded 100octane Sunoco 260 GT was used).

The following dyno runs were conducted on a Dynojet Dyno at about 53F and 22% Humidity.

installed mods at time of dyno:
APR Stage 2 software, Full Carbonio/APR intake, APR 3" Turbo Back Exhaust, Noisepipe delete, and forge diverter valve spacer.

93 Octane tune: 247.86whp and 275.72wtq (I still need to call the dyno shop and get them to send me the file with the Torque curve since it was left off accidentally while printing the graph)

details

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100 Octane tune: average of 262whp and 312wtq

details 1
details 2

100 octane video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX3AuMxWYyo


video of 6th gear pull on 93 octane. top speed 169mph. 242whp and 284wtq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8FybCqL5zM

100 octane valet mode dyno run. 41.7whp and 95.8wtq:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEkTKOlz1DE


This on V1.1 Stage 2 Tune?
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:18 PM   #41
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This on V1.1 Stage 2 Tune?
V1.1 thanks for pointing that out. I copy/pasted from an old post. I'll edit.
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