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Old 11-11-2010, 06:43 PM   #43
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I never take mine off 100oct.

Why pay for it and have it if you ain't gonna use it?
100oct is to hard to find around where i live! only at the race track which is 40 min away
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:52 PM   #44
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Ryan ur a pussy that drives around Miami on Friday nights alone cuz u can't get pussy. Meet me anywheree anytime bitch
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:57 PM   #45
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100oct is to hard to find around where i live! only at the race track which is 40 min away
Water/Meth, good sir.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:00 PM   #46
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Water/Meth, good sir.
I've been trying to look into that but few friends (mkv) said its bad for the car somehow but the search is still on!
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:41 PM   #47
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Wait, wait... let me understand... you guys bought GTIs and pump'em up to...drag race?!? hum... interesting.
When I was in my early 20's (25 years ago...) living in southern France, my buddies and I would drive to the hills, close a side road for a few hours(we had a construction sign and cones with us) and rally race each other until we ran out of gas (or ditched a car...). I thought that's why peeps buy small racers for! (back then I had an Autobianchi Abarth... anyone been two wheelin' lately? lol).
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:44 PM   #48
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I've been trying to look into that but few friends (mkv) said its bad for the car somehow but the search is still on!
It's not bad for the car. Get some!
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:36 PM   #49
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Some dyno numbers of two cars on the same day on same dyno. Uni stage 2 vs APR stage 2. Seems to me that uni might be better if APR was on 93 file.

http://europeanag.com/forum/index.php?topic=26851.0
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:57 PM   #50
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explain the whole water/meth thing to me and how much does it cost and how much power gain.
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Old 11-12-2010, 03:34 AM   #51
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I raced an MK5 who had APR Stg 2 with an intake and full APR 3" downpipe and catback and we were dead even. He wasn't pulling on me and I wasn't pulling on him. He was manual and I am CSG with APR Stg 1 with intake only.

I've spent months trying to decide which downpipe to go with so I can go to Stg 2 tune. But after this episode....plus reading how some people "complain" how their car "feels slower" after going to Stg 2...and how they feel that their car has lost low end power........

I'm sure that Stg 2 is faster, but....I dunno. I like the "kick in the pants" low end burst from the Stg 1. And from what I've heard from more than a few people....you lose that "feel" when you go to Stg 2.

I've even read where people switched back (or wanted to switch back) to Stg 1 after going to Stg 2.

Not to mention that I have yet to hear a downpipe that doesn't make the GTI sound like a fukn tractor.

For now, I think I will stick with Stg 1. If I decide to go to the next level, it would probably be straight to a KO4 and just bypass Stg 2.

Not knocking you Stg 2 guys...I know your shit is fast(er).......just my opinion at this point in time. A few months from now I just might be at Stg 2, haha.
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:26 AM   #52
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Old 11-12-2010, 10:29 AM   #53
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explain the whole water/meth thing to me and how much does it cost and how much power gain.
There's little to no gain JUST from W/M, but it allows for more aggressive tuning (being able to go from a 93 tune to a 100 tune) due to an increase in octane and cooler temps on the intake air.

It also helps to keep your internals clean, that's the meth.

I have the Devil's Own kit, it was $350. Easy install, and it comes with a controller to decide when you want it to come in for the 1/4 shot, and full shot. Runs off a boost tap, like a gauge.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:06 AM   #54
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There's little to no gain JUST from W/M, but it allows for more aggressive tuning (being able to go from a 93 tune to a 100 tune) due to an increase in octane and cooler temps on the intake air.

It also helps to keep your internals clean, that's the meth.

I have the Devil's Own kit, it was $350. Easy install, and it comes with a controller to decide when you want it to come in for the 1/4 shot, and full shot. Runs off a boost tap, like a gauge.
thanks for clarification but now i know i dont want it haha.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:50 AM   #55
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Well, with it, you'd be over stage 2 93oct power on a 100 tune from stage1.

Stage 2-93: 276/314.

Stage1-100: 273/337.
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Old 11-12-2010, 12:20 PM   #56
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I raced an MK5 who had APR Stg 2 with an intake and full APR 3" downpipe and catback and we were dead even. He wasn't pulling on me and I wasn't pulling on him. He was manual and I am CSG with APR Stg 1 with intake only.

I've spent months trying to decide which downpipe to go with so I can go to Stg 2 tune. But after this episode....plus reading how some people "complain" how their car "feels slower" after going to Stg 2...and how they feel that their car has lost low end power........

I'm sure that Stg 2 is faster, but....I dunno. I like the "kick in the pants" low end burst from the Stg 1. And from what I've heard from more than a few people....you lose that "feel" when you go to Stg 2.

I've even read where people switched back (or wanted to switch back) to Stg 1 after going to Stg 2.

Not to mention that I have yet to hear a downpipe that doesn't make the GTI sound like a fukn tractor.

For now, I think I will stick with Stg 1. If I decide to go to the next level, it would probably be straight to a KO4 and just bypass Stg 2.

Not knocking you Stg 2 guys...I know your shit is fast(er).......just my opinion at this point in time. A few months from now I just might be at Stg 2, haha.
Before I say anything let me just say I have a MKV GTI TSI. So I have the same engine and everything as you guys...

You do NOT lose power OR torque going stage 2. There is a definite gain in both. That surge of low end power does not go away, it gets greater. When I was stage 1, I was worried about the same thing. I've been in the MKV community for quite some time, and I know the effect various mods will have on our cars.

My car is a stage 2 Revo TSI, and I recently dyno'd 260whp and 338lb/ft spiking to 26psi on the dyno. You decide if you think torque loss is an issue after going stage 1 to stage 2.



And for all the guys on their high horse about APR software- don't be. APR has very good, smooth, and safe software. But as far as tuning goes for the 2.0t, I have found they consistently dyno lower and don't pull as hard as some other tuning companies' software, 100 oct. file or not.
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