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Old 02-13-2018, 04:03 PM   #1
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AUDI A4 TFSI FUEL INJECTOR

I tried searching for the answer on this and could not come up with a clear one. Does anybody have any insight on whether this part# 06h906036n will work on the mk6 gti? Its a fuel injector from 2013 and up audi a4 which is e85 compatable. I am looking for something that is plug and play no splicing connectors or cutting parts.
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Old 02-13-2018, 04:50 PM   #2
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If I remember correctly, you'll need the entire flex fuel intake manifold that comes with the 5th injector.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:55 PM   #3
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If I remember correctly, you'll need the entire flex fuel intake manifold that comes with the 5th injector.
I know the manifold can be made to fit but i dont want to have to fab up new brackets for it to work and fuel lines. I wanted to see if the injectors are plug an d play allowing me to run little bit more ethanol not full e85.

Realistically Im saving to get the hep manifold and add 4 additional injectors to run full e85 but currently funds arent there yet
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Old 02-13-2018, 06:16 PM   #4
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I know the manifold can be made to fit but i dont want to have to fab up new brackets for it to work and fuel lines. I wanted to see if the injectors are plug an d play allowing me to run little bit more ethanol not full e85.

Realistically Im saving to get the hep manifold and add 4 additional injectors to run full e85 but currently funds arent there yet
Get the IE manifold.
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:49 PM   #5
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Get the IE manifold.
Only has ports tapped for meth the hep has ports for adding fuel injectors which is key for running e85
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:16 AM   #6
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Only has ports tapped for meth the hep has ports for adding fuel injectors which is key for running e85


How are you pumping all that e85?
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:19 PM   #7
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How are you pumping all that e85?
TTRS LPFP AND WALBRO 450 in the tank to help deliver e85. If I manage to ever save up enough to buy the hep manifold then I would get the torqbyte or aem ems to control the 4 additional fuel injectors.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:55 AM   #8
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I should receive today a set of bosch injector's 0 261 500 164 ( 06H906036N).
My car have from OEM 06H906036G or P( upgrade).

I will install those Audi B8.5 FF injector's and fire up with 1/4 tank of E50 then run it with NO remap and log LTFT.
I will then add or remove Percentage of ethanol by filling with more E85 or 93 until I get LTFT at 0% ( if possible)
Then we will know how much more they flow by deducting it from How much % of ethanol to have 0% LTFT.

Some interesting reading:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rbo-5558-build

https://www.nostrumshop.com/wp-conte...v-pressure.png

AUDI B8.5 FF are flowing:
https://www.bosch-motorsport-shop.co...direct-injecto

1050cc/mn or 718g/mn or 66lb/hr @ 100 bar

-1050cc/mn at 100bar wich could translate to 1285 Cc/mn@150 bar
Increasing the fuel pressure will increase the injector flow rate as follows: Square Root (New Pressure/Old Pressure).

100 bar is the comparable pressure for GDI injector's.

PS: 5th injector on B8.5 is only their for Very Very cold start . It's not involved into the fueling as soon as engine as temperature is above -10C ( very cold) see page 23 of this document.
http://vwgtraining.co.uk/recursos/v4...gic_SSP439.pdf

Cold start valve N17 is what we call 5th injector se page 21

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I'M actually going with a set of mk7 golf r fuel injectors instead of the audi ones
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I just receive my set of 0 261 500 164.
Brand new from shop 67€
But for the new next 2 week i have to go to work in Thailand. Will install when I'm back.
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I'M actually going with a set of mk7 golf r fuel injectors instead of the audi ones
DO you know how much they flow?
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Old 02-21-2018, 09:07 PM   #12
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Anyone know if you can use this manifold without the extra injectors? I plan on going E85 big turbo eventually which I would assume will need at least 2 extra injectors, if not all 4. Before I do that though i'm just gonna run regular fuel but would still like to use the manifold for the water-meth ports
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:13 PM   #13
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Anyone know if you can use this manifold without the extra injectors? I plan on going E85 big turbo eventually which I would assume will need at least 2 extra injectors, if not all 4. Before I do that though i'm just gonna run regular fuel but would still like to use the manifold for the water-meth ports
You can use the manifold but its a pita to do custom fuel rail brackets not worth the headache imo
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You can use the manifold but its a pita to do custom fuel rail brackets not worth the headache imo
What would I need the custom fuel rail brackets for?

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