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Old 02-27-2018, 08:41 PM   #1527
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How long are the timing chains supposed to last on the mk6 engines? i have a '11 gti and just had my timing chain tensioner/chain/guides/cover replaced but im thinking that the timing chains should be a lifetime part.
I wouldn't trust the chains past 120k miles. They stretch too much.
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:19 PM   #1528
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2011 A3 ccta here .... Did my whole timing system and water pump and carbon clean at 160000 km .... I had the old tensioner .... Thankfully somehow the tensioner didn't let go ....

How come we even need to do the timing system on these engines .... with most modern 2.0T engines, it's not even a factor in maintenance .... I think VW group parts department is a big income part of the business .... Speaking from experience ....



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Old 03-01-2018, 09:52 AM   #1529
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2011 A3 ccta here .... Did my whole timing system and water pump and carbon clean at 160000 km .... I had the old tensioner .... Thankfully somehow the tensioner didn't let go ....

How come we even need to do the timing system on these engines .... with most modern 2.0T engines, it's not even a factor in maintenance .... I think VW group parts department is a big income part of the business .... Speaking from experience ....



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My thoughts exactly. When I had my car towed in, the two service advisor and the mechanic who worked on my car, all commented on how clean my car is for 134k miles. I don't doubt for a second they sized me up right there and knew I was going to put up the cash to have the car fixed, rather than walking across the building and into the showroom to buy a brand new car from them with a 84 month loan or whatever.

I've had too many bad experiences with VW services (yet VW sales have been amazing experiences) to immediately trust the people behind the counter. Although, I must say...this VW service I recently had for the timing chain/intake cam replacement was spot on.
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Old 03-04-2018, 10:25 PM   #1530
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My 2011 GTI has the old tensioner with about 59,600 miles on it and I'm going to get all the timing components checked out this Wednesday. Car has been running extremely rough lately (thinking it may be due to carbon buildup), but I'm going to have them check and see whether the chain has stretched. I'm hoping I can get away with just doing the tensioner, because I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep the car. I'd rather not drop 2k on the entire assembly if I don't have to.
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:42 AM   #1531
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I've always read about this, but thought I was in the clear..

am i?

I have a 2013 GTI.
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Old 03-12-2018, 09:54 AM   #1532
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I've always read about this, but thought I was in the clear..

am i?

I have a 2013 GTI.
For tensioner, yes. Your car has the revised version.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:02 PM   #1533
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I went though this entire thread and compiled every report of members' tensioner versions. Missing build dates are simply due to members not including that data. Every model year '10-11 is old-style (except that one with a new motor), and every '14 is new-style, so I excluded those years. I guess I could have just excluded '13, as well.




Here's another version that only includes reports with build dates:




I wish I had more data points for the MY12s with the old style tensioner. Not many build dates were reported for those. It seems pretty clear that the transition point was 9/11, but that's only based on three reported build dates of old-style MY12s.

I really don't know what was up with that one errant 2/12 one. In retrospect I should have included a column for member username, but I'm not about to go back and do it all over.
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Old 03-12-2018, 03:08 PM   #1534
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Awesome work man. I'll get my build date so you have the info.
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:25 AM   #1535
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2011 Cc Production Date: 2010-06-11 old tensioner
2012 Gti Production Date: 2011-06-17 old tensioner

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Old 03-13-2018, 07:30 AM   #1536
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I had a bad experience with a chain on my last car, a 2001 gti vr6. I was going about 5 mph and just barely tapped the gas, and then I lost all power like a coilpack went out. I even drove it home like that. Turns out I stretched the chain and broke a couple teeth on the sprocket, somehow that's all the damage I did. Everybody always said the chain was a job to be done at 120k, and this happened to me at 111k. I'm glad they use a chain and not a belt, but I still wouldn't trust the chains beyond 120k.
I had the tensioner etc replaced around 55k miles, would you say it would last the life of the car from now or its best to replace it again at some point?
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Old 03-13-2018, 07:14 PM   #1537
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I went though this entire thread and compiled every report of members' tensioner versions. Missing build dates are simply due to members not including that data. Every model year '10-11 is old-style (except that one with a new motor), and every '14 is new-style, so I excluded those years. I guess I could have just excluded '13, as well.




Here's another version that only includes reports with build dates:




I wish I had more data points for the MY12s with the old style tensioner. Not many build dates were reported for those. It seems pretty clear that the transition point was 9/11, but that's only based on three reported build dates of old-style MY12s.

I really don't know what was up with that one errant 2/12 one. In retrospect I should have included a column for member username, but I'm not about to go back and do it all over.
Thanks for compiling this!
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I had the tensioner etc replaced around 55k miles, would you say it would last the life of the car from now or its best to replace it again at some point?
If you updated the tensioner to the newest revision your next weak link is the chain itself. The old version has been known to stretch pretty bad by 100k miles. However, when I changed my cam chain at 105k I didn't have any significant stretch. Was your cam chain updated to the revised version (part #06K109158AD)? In the below pic the updated version is on the right (installed on the cam) and the old version is on the left in my hand.

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Old 03-17-2018, 08:57 AM   #1539
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My 2013 gti was assembled 6/12...so I guess you can mark me down as having the new tensioner? Thanks for posting this, been wondering if i was in the clear. Guess I'll be holding onto my mk6 awhile longer.

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Old 03-18-2018, 07:07 AM   #1540
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If you updated the tensioner to the newest revision your next weak link is the chain itself. The old version has been known to stretch pretty bad by 100k miles. However, when I changed my cam chain at 105k I didn't have any significant stretch. Was your cam chain updated to the revised version (part #06K109158AD)? In the below pic the updated version is on the right (installed on the cam) and the old version is on the left in my hand.

IMG_20171225_151821 by Tony G, on Flickr
Think I've had the whole thing done, camshaft bridge snapped and that got replaced too. This mean is good for lifetime or expect to change again in X miles?
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